GM makes better engines than toyota. ?
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GM makes better engines than toyota. ?
the V6 camaro & CTS DI 3.6L makes 18/29 epa mileage and 304hp, 274tq.
6 speed.
MPG a tad better than the 2GR FSE in the GS and IS.
since when did GM start making engines as good as toyota?
the last GM car I drove was a chevy impala rental car, and i got both crappy power and mpg.
6 speed.
MPG a tad better than the 2GR FSE in the GS and IS.
since when did GM start making engines as good as toyota?
the last GM car I drove was a chevy impala rental car, and i got both crappy power and mpg.
IMO GM has always made good V8 engines, while their engines with lesser cylinders seem less competitive like the 3.5L and 3.9L V6's in the G6, Impala, Equinox etc..., but with respect to the 91'-93' GMC Typhoon, and GMC Syclone which both utilized a 4.3L V6 Turbocharged good for 280hp and 360lb-ft (0-60 5.3*) and the 1987 Buick Grand National. GM still has a ways to go, but yeah the new 3.6L is a very good engine, as is the new 3.0L V6 in the new SRX. So IMO to answer your question when did GM start making engines as good as Toyota, I think it was when they realized they were losing their market share due to their sub par and inefficient products. Their finally starting to shift their view towards Asian manufacturers strategy of quality over quantity. The new EcoTech engine line-up seems promising a 1.6, 1.8, and a 1.4L DI Turbo'ed I4's. It's likely that GM (along with many other companies) will put more money into R&D to produce more efficient cars/technologies than the last generation models, as well as their competitors in order to regain some lost ground.
the V6 camaro & CTS DI 3.6L makes 18/29 epa mileage and 304hp, 274tq.
6 speed.
MPG a tad better than the 2GR FSE in the GS and IS.
since when did GM start making engines as good as toyota?
the last GM car I drove was a chevy impala rental car, and i got both crappy power and mpg.
6 speed.
MPG a tad better than the 2GR FSE in the GS and IS.
since when did GM start making engines as good as toyota?
the last GM car I drove was a chevy impala rental car, and i got both crappy power and mpg.
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Did they start putting that in 6-cylinder cars? I'm familiar with it in the Corvette and V8 Camaros. It actually doesn't bother me, because it only does it when you're accelerating casually, and the engine has so much damn torque that 4th gear drives like 2nd in most cars. 
I'm not sure it'd be a good idea in a V6, no matter how powerful, because the necessary torque just won't be there.
I'm not sure it'd be a good idea in a V6, no matter how powerful, because the necessary torque just won't be there.
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No experience with the current GM V6, but Toyota is still ironing out issues with 5 generations of cam gear fixes on the 2GR-FSE. In terms of how that will effect operation over time, its also something to look at beyond numbers.
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Wards 10 best engines 2009
Winners 2009:
Audi AG: 2.0L TFSI turbocharged DOHC I-4 (A4 Avant)
BMW AG: 3.0L turbocharged DOHC I-6 (135i Coupe)
BMW AG: 3.0L DOHC I-6 Turbodiesel (335d)
Chrysler LLC: 5.7L Hemi OHV V-8 (Dodge Ram/Challenger R/T)
Ford Motor Co.: 2.5L DOHC I-4 HEV (Escape Hybrid)
General Motors Corp.: 3.6L DOHC V-6 (Cadillac CTS)
Honda Motor Co. Ltd.: 3.5L SOHC V-6 (Accord Coupe)
Hyundai Motor Co. Ltd.: 4.6L DOHC V-8 (Genesis)
Toyota Motor Corp.: 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Lexus IS 350)
Volkswagen AG: 2.0L SOHC I-4 Turbodiesel (Jetta TDI)
Audi AG: 2.0L TFSI turbocharged DOHC I-4 (A4 Avant)
BMW AG: 3.0L turbocharged DOHC I-6 (135i Coupe)
BMW AG: 3.0L DOHC I-6 Turbodiesel (335d)
Chrysler LLC: 5.7L Hemi OHV V-8 (Dodge Ram/Challenger R/T)
Ford Motor Co.: 2.5L DOHC I-4 HEV (Escape Hybrid)
General Motors Corp.: 3.6L DOHC V-6 (Cadillac CTS)
Honda Motor Co. Ltd.: 3.5L SOHC V-6 (Accord Coupe)
Hyundai Motor Co. Ltd.: 4.6L DOHC V-8 (Genesis)
Toyota Motor Corp.: 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Lexus IS 350)
Volkswagen AG: 2.0L SOHC I-4 Turbodiesel (Jetta TDI)
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