Notices
Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Innova

July 2009 Auto Sales

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 4, 2009 | 07:09 PM
  #76  
bitkahuna's Avatar
bitkahuna
CL Community Team
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 80,472
Likes: 3,829
Default

Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
http://www.freep.com/article/2009080...icles-for-July

Top 20 vehicles for July
The government's cash-for-clunkers program is credited with boosting sales of the Honda Civic and the Ford Focus compared with a year ago.
July 2009 % change 2009 YTD % change
Ford F - Series 36,327 -19% 215,959 -32.4%
Toyota Camry 33,974 -19.4% 184,216 -34.7%
Honda Civic 30,037 3.1% 148,496 -36.6%
Honda Accord 29,774 -28.1% 160,817 -35%
Toyota Corolla 29,593 -14.1% 151,236 -33.9%
Chevrolet Silverado 27,617 -16.3% 177,566 -32.8%
Ford Focus 21,830 43.6% 91,184 -34.2%
Ford Escape 20,241 94.2% 96,643 -5.7%
Nissan Altima 19,252 -21.2% 115,680 -36.6%
Toyota Prius 19,173 29.7% 74,924 -29.5%
Honda CR-V 19,151 9.9% 98,068 -19.8%
Dodge Ram 17,723 16.9% 112,239 -25.3%
Ford Fusion 17,610 66.0% 102,756 4.3%
Toyota RAV4 15,912 32.5% 78,153 -6.4%
Chevrolet Malibu 15,339 -7.8% 91,168 -12.4%
Chevrolet Impala 14,649 9.6% 93,336 -38.7%
Hyundai Elantra 13,616 30.2% 53,520 -26.1%
Hyundai Sonata 13,381 17.3% 73,862 -4.5%
Toyota Tacoma 12,552 7.6% 65,713 -31.4%
Volkswagen Jetta 12,078 30.6% 58,721 5.6%
Source: Autodata Corp.
aaaannd... a quick excel pivot table shows...

Code:
Toyota          111204
Ford             96008
Honda            78962
Chevy            57605
Hyundai          26997
Nissan           19252
Dodge            17723
Volkswagen       12078
Grand Total     419829

Last edited by bitkahuna; Aug 4, 2009 at 07:12 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 10:29 AM
  #77  
RX300-BV's Avatar
RX300-BV
Lead Lap
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
From: California
Default July Hybrid Sales

Toyota Prius 19,173
Ford Fusion 2,589
Toyota Camry 2,509
Ford Escape 2,329
Honda Insight 2,296
Lexus RX 1,369
Toyota Highlander 1,171
Nissan Altima 1,030
Honda Civic 969
Chevrolet Malibu 476
Saturn Vue 269
Chevrolet Tahoe 254
Mercury Milan 221
Mercury Mariner 214
Cadillac Escalade 167
Chevrolet Silverado 132
GMC Yukon 117
GMC Sierra 48
Lexus GS 45
Lexus LS 28
Saturn Aura 24

Source: Edmunds

No surprise that the Prius is the 500 lb gorilla in the room, easily owning Hybrid sales. 5th place for Honda Insight and 9th for Civic Hybrid. That's not very good for Honda. The flipside to that is 2nd place and 4th place for Ford with the Fusion and Escape hybrid.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 11:07 AM
  #78  
RX300-BV's Avatar
RX300-BV
Lead Lap
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
From: California
Default Mid-Sized Luxury Sales

Well here's the breakdown for the past year of the mid-sized luxury class along with the Genesis. The Genesis, in July, would have been on sale for a full year now.

Code:
      Genesis   MKS      M     GS     A6    S80    STS     RL   E-Class 5-Series
July    2,015  1,205    726    551    511    602    358    131   5,556   2,486
June    1,838  1,365    682    454    571  1,098  1,220    135   2,781   2,757
May     2,079  1,321    658    516    516  1,088    637    169   2,275   3,904
Apr.    2,076  1,178    441    468    388    681    711    202   1,795   4,319
Mar.    1,626  1,716    886    625    403    778    575    161   1,978   4,040
Feb.    1,263  1,346  1,107    595    445    671    357    186   2,104   3,191
Jan.    1,056  1,535  1,176    898    776    473    413    208   1,768   2,596
Dec.    1,040  2,100  1,194  1,200  1,218    959    907    245   3,464   3,699
Nov.    1,151  1,958  1,186    721    717    844    630    234   2,264   2,927
Oct.    1,121  2,072  1,193    819    758    424    632    272   2,098   3,958
Sep.    1,029  1,814  1,077    977  1,090    578    856    259   2,968   2,423
Aug.    1,177  2,374  1,221  1,686  1,520    576    975    316   2,681   5,287
Total  17,471 19,984 11,547  9,510  8,913  8,772  8,271  2,518  31,732  41,587
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 11:50 AM
  #79  
bitkahuna's Avatar
bitkahuna
CL Community Team
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 80,472
Likes: 3,829
Default

thx rx300 - very interesting, although i guess not really surprising.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 12:04 PM
  #80  
LexFather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

5 series sells more/just as much than the M35/45, GS, RL, S80, A6 combined!!! Amazing!
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 12:20 PM
  #81  
ffpowerLN's Avatar
ffpowerLN
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,675
Likes: 1
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
5 series sells more/just as much than the M35/45, GS, RL, S80, A6 combined!!! Amazing!
5er is the daddy of midsize luxury sedans.

RX is the daddy of luxury cute-utes.

3er is the big brother (not yet daddy status) of entry luxury sedans/coupes.

LS is the big brother of fullsize luxury sedans.

No wonder BMW and Lexus are battling for the Luxury sales crown.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 12:54 PM
  #82  
LexFather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Andrew actually posted that up
The only way I've seen to get an actual BREAKDOWN of each model is buying Bimmer Magazine. I'm not getting paid for this so I doubt I go that extra step
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 02:23 PM
  #83  
Trexus's Avatar
Trexus
CL Community Team
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,334
Likes: 61
From: California
Default

Originally Posted by RX300-BV
Toyota Prius 19,173
Ford Fusion 2,589
Toyota Camry 2,509
Ford Escape 2,329
Honda Insight 2,296
Lexus RX 1,369
Toyota Highlander 1,171
Nissan Altima 1,030
Honda Civic 969
Chevrolet Malibu 476
Saturn Vue 269
Chevrolet Tahoe 254
Mercury Milan 221
Mercury Mariner 214
Cadillac Escalade 167
Chevrolet Silverado 132
GMC Yukon 117
GMC Sierra 48
Lexus GS 45
Lexus LS 28
Saturn Aura 24

Source: Edmunds

No surprise that the Prius is the 500 lb gorilla in the room, easily owning Hybrid sales. 5th place for Honda Insight and 9th for Civic Hybrid. That's not very good for Honda. The flipside to that is 2nd place and 4th place for Ford with the Fusion and Escape hybrid.
It will be very interesting when the HS 250h comes out. I believe sales expectation is 30,000/year or 2,500/month. That would put the HS third or fourth place...
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 02:55 PM
  #84  
LexFather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Originally Posted by Trexus
It will be very interesting when the HS 250h comes out. I believe sales expectation is 30,000/year or 2,500/month. That would put the HS third or fourth place...
Good point.....
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 03:31 PM
  #85  
RX300-BV's Avatar
RX300-BV
Lead Lap
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
From: California
Default

Originally Posted by Trexus
It will be very interesting when the HS 250h comes out. I believe sales expectation is 30,000/year or 2,500/month. That would put the HS third or fourth place...
The question to me is who the HS250 will appeal to. I'm thinking the HS will have low conquest numbers, with the majority of its sales cannabalizing Prius, Camry Hybrid, IS250, ES, and maybe even some RX450h sales. Of course at 2500 units a month, the sales drop from these other models wouldn't be significant. You'd basically have to ask the consumer, what would you have picked if you didn't pick the HS.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 03:53 PM
  #86  
pagemaster's Avatar
pagemaster
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,025
Likes: 0
From: MIchigan
Default

Originally Posted by RX300-BV
Well here's the breakdown for the past year of the mid-sized luxury class along with the Genesis. The Genesis, in July, would have been on sale for a full year now.

Code:
      Genesis   MKS      M     GS     A6    S80    STS     RL   E-Class 5-Series
July    2,015  1,205    726    551    511    602    358    131   5,556   2,486
June    1,838  1,365    682    454    571  1,098  1,220    135   2,781   2,757
May     2,079  1,321    658    516    516  1,088    637    169   2,275   3,904
Apr.    2,076  1,178    441    468    388    681    711    202   1,795   4,319
Mar.    1,626  1,716    886    625    403    778    575    161   1,978   4,040
Feb.    1,263  1,346  1,107    595    445    671    357    186   2,104   3,191
Jan.    1,056  1,535  1,176    898    776    473    413    208   1,768   2,596
Dec.    1,040  2,100  1,194  1,200  1,218    959    907    245   3,464   3,699
Nov.    1,151  1,958  1,186    721    717    844    630    234   2,264   2,927
Oct.    1,121  2,072  1,193    819    758    424    632    272   2,098   3,958
Sep.    1,029  1,814  1,077    977  1,090    578    856    259   2,968   2,423
Aug.    1,177  2,374  1,221  1,686  1,520    576    975    316   2,681   5,287
Total  17,471 19,984 11,547  9,510  8,913  8,772  8,271  2,518  31,732  41,587

Regardless of what others think, it looks like the Genesis is success. It is outselling its target the GS by 2:1...and pretty much owns some other much more established brands.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 04:31 PM
  #87  
RX300-BV's Avatar
RX300-BV
Lead Lap
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
From: California
Default

Originally Posted by pagemaster
Regardless of what others think, it looks like the Genesis is success. It is outselling its target the GS by 2:1...and pretty much owns some other much more established brands.
I don't think anyone has proclaimed the Genesis a failure. It's clearly a winner for Hyundai. I think what most of us would like to know is the conquest rate of the Genesis and what people would have opted for had they not purchased a Genesis. (i.e. Are people really opting for the Genesis over the GS, or did they really pick the Genesis over the ES?)
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 05:55 PM
  #88  
bitkahuna's Avatar
bitkahuna
CL Community Team
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 80,472
Likes: 3,829
Default

Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
5 LEASES more/just as much than the M35/45, GS, RL, S80, A6 combined!!! Amazing!
fixed.

(10 chr)
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 06:13 PM
  #89  
pagemaster's Avatar
pagemaster
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,025
Likes: 0
From: MIchigan
Default

Originally Posted by RX300-BV
I don't think anyone has proclaimed the Genesis a failure. It's clearly a winner for Hyundai. I think what most of us would like to know is the conquest rate of the Genesis and what people would have opted for had they not purchased a Genesis. (i.e. Are people really opting for the Genesis over the GS, or did they really pick the Genesis over the ES?)
Yes the conquest rate would be good info.

I would also like to know what the they traded in or are these owners ones that have moved up from Camry's, Accords etc.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 08:54 PM
  #90  
LexFather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Originally Posted by pagemaster
Regardless of what others think, it looks like the Genesis is success. It is outselling its target the GS by 2:1...and pretty much owns some other much more established brands.
Sigh...
1. Genesis sales now include coupe/sedan
2. Sales goals were 20k for the sedan and 30k for the coupe for 50k a year.
3. The Genesis is NEWER than the GS and much CHEAPER.
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:06 PM.