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Old May 19, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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My favorite is the back seat though, his caddie is from the mid 90s when back seats were still very roomie.
Yep......I'll bet.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 08:00 AM
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So THEN Lexus turns around, stiffens the new ES suspension, and dumps the 60-series tires for 55's. Yes, that sure made a lot of sense.
I've driven the ES 330 and 350 recently and its very clear, the 350 is harsher and sportier. The ES 330 IMO was a Japanese Caddy.

Both cars are sold/sell like mad though.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I've driven the ES 330 and 350 recently and its very clear, the 350 is harsher and sportier. The ES 330 IMO was a Japanese Caddy.

Both cars are sold/sell like mad though.
Yes, I almost bought an ES330. The only thing that stopped me was my conversion to AWD....and I liked Subaru's AWD system better than that on the RX.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Faymester
i guess so, i'll 22 in June, is that quite young?
Well, respectfully, yes! At least I hope you don't have a lack of flexibility, groan when you bend down, sit down, or get up, and haven't retired yet!

but i wasn't saying cut the sofas on wheels now ... i was just saying that it will need to happen eventually. soft rides are nice, but i just think people are going to want handling AND nice ride, body-roll will become more and more unacceptable
Handling is honestly of little interest to most older drivers (I mean Cadillac's demographic is still 50+ whether they like it or not), but I agree that body roll DECREASES comfort, but crude solutions like stiff sway bars or low profile tires aren't the answer. The answer (and I suspect we agree on this) will come from increasingly sophisticated active suspensions, newer tire and wheel designs, and lighter allow wheels.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

Handling is honestly of little interest to most older drivers (I mean Cadillac's demographic is still 50+ whether they like it or not), but I agree that body roll DECREASES comfort, but crude solutions like stiff sway bars or low profile tires aren't the answer. The answer (and I suspect we agree on this) will come from increasingly sophisticated active suspensions, newer tire and wheel designs, and lighter allow wheels.
With most lower-center-of-gravity vehicles, even fairly softly-sprung ones, body roll today is generally not much of an issue unless you try to push it in corners. With a few obvious exceptions like the BMW X5, Volvo XC-90, and Audi Q7, it becomes more and more an issue as the center-of-gravity rises.
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