There car cars on the market today that, IMO, are even duller than the Corolla. The Chevy Aveo and entry-level versions of the Dodge Stratus, Mitsubishi Lancer, Suzuki Aerio, come to mind. So does the Kia Amanti with its excessive body roll (though it is a nice car inside), and the Toyota Prius with its equally roly-poly handling, which IMO is worse than the Corolla's. The Prius, though, has the "emotions" of knowing that you are saving both gas and emissions, if you care about those matters.

 

True. I felt like a BMW driver when I wrote that.

 

One of my favorite sayings "The lug nuts on my BMW require more torque than your Honda makes!"

 

sorry. grainy bad picture trick doesnt work. I choose the civic

 

He was supporting the Civic Si and saying it was more sporty.


I still don't know why people are comparing a Civic Si Coupe with a Corolla sedan.

Comparing the Si to a tC would make more sense.

 

Sorry but you need a slight dose of reality. Yes there are tastefully done Hondas but there are so many bad ones or ricers that the brand as a whole has that image, if you like it or not.

I honestly can never figure out how people can say the Civic or Accord is so much sportier than a Corolla or Camry b/c they all put me to sleep. I see them as dependable, great family cars.

The problem is proven in this thread, some people think Civics and Accords are Ferraris and drive/mod as such.

Pep Boys to the rescue!!

 

True. I went to the track with a Civic Si. No way any stock Corolla is going to keep up. It handled very well. Again, it is the Si. Some stats.
Si-197hp, 139lbs torque, 8k redline. Honestly the successor to the RSX, upgraded sport version of the Civic.
Corolla S-126hp, 122lbs torque, an APPEARANCE package

Why in the flaming HELL is anybody comparing a Civic Si to any Corolla???

I guess we should compare the IS-F to the TL Type-S then....

 

You're probably right, but the limited-production, manual-transmission, Corolla XRS, with the 180 HP VTEC engine from the Celica GT-S and the uplevel Matrix/Vibe GT, would be close.

 

Corolla LE

 

The BMW mentality is amongst a lot of Lexus owners, including yourself. I don't need a dose of reality, I see them all the time, Honda's with fart cans, and underbody neons...etc. but like any other car, there are some tastefully done up ones too.

The reason the Civic Si was mentioned is because I compared it briefly to the Corolla S. The car no matter sales figures, does not change the fact that is it boring and not attractive. We can call argue this until blue in the face.

 

That is an incorrect comparison, iobidder (see my post above). The Si cannot be compared directly to the Corolla S. It compares much closer to the Corolla XRS, with the 180 HP Toyota VTEC engine. The more mundane Corolla S uses the same engine as all other non-XRS Corollas.

 

I was not comparing it as in numbers, as in sporty for sporty model, and I saw your post above, and I took the liberty to omit it because the XRS is limited as the Civic Si and the Corolla S is not.

 

What about super charged Scion coupe, I never drove one, but is that thing sporty at all?

 

Well sir, we have the capabilities and Honda owners in stock Accords and Pilots and Civics who think they are Al Unser Jr don't. You don't know me or have any idea of what I have done from a community standpoint, so please, knock-off the personal comments.

The Civic Si should NOT be mentioned b/c we are comparing a Corolla which has no upgraded performance model. You are comparing an ugraded performance model, to a base model car.

I am not even saying a stock Civic is not "sportier" than a Corolla, the Corolla is as UNSPORTY as it gets. Almost ANY car is sportier.

The Corolla succeed at basic "vanilla" transportation. It is so good, a 6 year old design is outselling the brand new Civic design.

My other point is, to say a Civic is sportier than a Corolla is NOTHING to brag about and like saying "the Alien is better looking than the Predator". In the grand scheme of things, both put me and most people to sleep.

Of course, throw some stickers and LEDs on there, and you have a 10 second car.

 

You'd never know that this thread is about the 2008 Corolla.