Wow, comparing a Civic Si to a Corolla?? There's like a $5,000 price difference. So next up is: BMW M3 verses Lexus ES350?


Again, why are we comparing Si's to the Corolla? Notice the Corolla S doesn't add 5 or 6K onto the price tag. It's about the same price as the LX but with sportier wheels, side skirts, spoiler, ect. It's not made to be a sports car.

 

I would love a link to your statistical information.

 

Because the topic was about whether the Civic handles better than the Corolla. Remove the Si, insert the LX or EX, and our stance on this topic will remain.

And they also don't do anything to make it perform like an "S". So it stands to reason that they wouldn't add a few grand to the pricetag.

Then they shouldn't call it an "S".

 

You don't believe me that Corolla is the best seller?

I'll see if I can get the sales figures posted.

The Corolla even sells more than the new civic in it's 5th year.

 

i have to say (becuase i think this everytime i see it) that the "T" at the top of the grill is just stpid anyways, looks like it was put on in the wrong place, center it or put it on the hood, no half way jobs and indecisiveness [sp] please

totally agree, corolla for a long time has struck me as generic 'car' ... if a cop asked 'could u discribe the car miss?' i would say 'uh, it was like ur generic car, a toyota or something'

new civic at least LOOKS interesting & mazda 3 is not totally generic ... can't say that for corolla


for some reason corolla is a best seller, but i think its because toy has a rep of making totally reliable cars ... i think if corolla were a little more asthetically pleasing sales would go up ... because then ppl chould have reliable AND non ugly/boring

 

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...t=sales+thread

2007 sales through April.


Corolla = 120,418 units

Civic = 106,670 units (97,295 regular + 9,375 hybrid versions)

Mazda 3 = 39,972 units

 

If I had to guess why the Corolla sales are better than the civc, I would say its because most of the Corolla's line-up is considerably cheaper than the civic's, making it more affordable for most people.

MSRP:

Corolla CE: $14,305
Corolla S: $15,350
Corolla LE: $15,515

Civic DX: $15,010
Civic LX: $16,960
Civic EX: $18,710

 

The Mazda3 and Mini are still the best cars IMO for that segment of the market. They have a personality and are quite fun to drive. The Civic is nice too, I just can't get over its awful looks. However, the steering is responsive (if not a tad light), handling is good, and engine provides decent punch.

The Corolla is kinda like most other Toyota products: vanilla ice cream. Not much to hate about it, but not much to drool over either. But many people want a reliable appliance that gets them from A to B with low fuel consumption, and the Corolla does that task.

 

Great point. Most corolla buyers buy the car for transporation. They just need a reliable car that gets great mileage. Not to mention, it's affordable (more so than the civic). A friend of mine bought one just for daily commute and it does a great job of it. Not everyone is a car fanatic, thus many Toyota products fit the bill.

 

Yes.....and vanilla ice cream tastes pretty good, too, just like it is. You don't try and add Jalapeno peppers to it.

 

I like mint chocolate chip. (No, literally I do. Nothing to do with cars)

 

You are crying about $5,000 for a compact car that should be MORE appealing? Yes I do notice how it does not add $5K to the price, and that is what in a nutshell I have been trying to say about the Corolla versus the Civic, and why the Civic has ammenities that the Corolla is lacking.

 

Remember also that we're comparing a 5 year old Corolla to a 1 year old Civic.

And I do actually like the Civic and Mazda 3 better myself.

 

I've never seen so much stirred up emotion by an emotionless car. Cool.

But on topic, the Corolla is just too bland for my tastes, but them my taste in cars doesn't apply to most people. People want basic, cheap transportation and the Corolla delivers that.

You want some fun with your cheap, or have a lifelong dream of being a ricer, buy a Civic Si. I don't plan on owning either so it really doesn't matter to me, but the Civic is undeniably more exciting to both drive and look at.

 

True......

Ok, see the whole ricer comment is rather bland coming from people that are driving Japanese cars, never forget chief, your Lexus is first a Toyota. I don't think generalizing Civic Si owners as ricers is a practical comment. I had a Camry, went to an Accord because the Camry was plain and boring, and felt better in a Accord, so I guess that makes me a SUPER RICER!