Why No Touch Screen Nav Systems Outside Of Lexus?....
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Why No Touch Screen Nav Systems Outside Of Lexus?....
...I know I'm not alone in this. I positively despise any system that makes you input information with a dumb-assed wheel. The very thought of buying a $86k+ car that uses such an anachronism is appalling and yet none of the Germans (Audi, M-B, BMW) have a touch screen nav available on any of their vehicles. Is it just their monumental arrogance that "real drivers don't care about such things?" 
Well, here's a news flash. I'm a real driver with real dollars to spend and you have all lost a sale because of this one factor.
In a world where Magellan. Garmin, TomTom, et al offer marvelous little stand alone units that use a touch screen this state of affairs is utterly inexplicable. I mean if these sorry clowns can't figure out how to do it themselve, all they have to do is contract with any of these aftermarket manufacturers to do it for them.
And tell me; what's the logic of Infinity putting in an up to date touch screen nav in the G35 but not in their M class???!!!
Mark that, "DUH!!!"
Well, here's a news flash. I'm a real driver with real dollars to spend and you have all lost a sale because of this one factor.
In a world where Magellan. Garmin, TomTom, et al offer marvelous little stand alone units that use a touch screen this state of affairs is utterly inexplicable. I mean if these sorry clowns can't figure out how to do it themselve, all they have to do is contract with any of these aftermarket manufacturers to do it for them.
And tell me; what's the logic of Infinity putting in an up to date touch screen nav in the G35 but not in their M class???!!!
Mark that, "DUH!!!"
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There's simply no excuse for this.
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Besides utilizing touch-screen, the new G35 has a hard-drive based Navigation System. It is a brand new design. The M still uses the older outdated DVD based system. When the M gets updated, I am sure it will get all of these things as well.
Also, touch-screen in general is nothing new or special even. The 1989 Oldsmobile Toronado, Buick Reatta, and Buick Riviera had all-digital gauges and a touch-screen interface (GM Visual Information Center).
GM introduced it 17 years ago:
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One year is a very long time in the world of technology.
Besides utilizing touch-screen, the new G35 has a hard-drive based Navigation System. It is a brand new design. The M still uses the older outdated DVD based system. When the M gets updated, I am sure it will get all of these things as well.
Also, touch-screen in general is nothing new or special even. The 1989 Oldsmobile Toronado, Buick Reatta, and Buick Riviera had all-digital gauges and a touch-screen interface (GM Visual Information Center).
GM introduced it 17 years ago:
Besides utilizing touch-screen, the new G35 has a hard-drive based Navigation System. It is a brand new design. The M still uses the older outdated DVD based system. When the M gets updated, I am sure it will get all of these things as well.
Also, touch-screen in general is nothing new or special even. The 1989 Oldsmobile Toronado, Buick Reatta, and Buick Riviera had all-digital gauges and a touch-screen interface (GM Visual Information Center).
GM introduced it 17 years ago:
Well fingerprints, ya but I noticed my TomTom is less susceptible to fingerprint marks than my Prius' screen. I'm sure they'll eventually come up with a fingerprint-free surface.
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This has been talked to death....
Having owned both, I prefer to the touch screen for ease of use, but the I-Drive type system with tactile feedback for "keeping your eyes on the road". I personally think the second reason is more important.
Having owned both, I prefer to the touch screen for ease of use, but the I-Drive type system with tactile feedback for "keeping your eyes on the road". I personally think the second reason is more important.
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My friend's 2005 Acura TL has touch screen nav, so does my friend's 2003 Honda Accord.
For a second there I thought this was more pics of the 2007 Toyota Century.
One year is a very long time in the world of technology.
Besides utilizing touch-screen, the new G35 has a hard-drive based Navigation System. It is a brand new design. The M still uses the older outdated DVD based system. When the M gets updated, I am sure it will get all of these things as well.
Also, touch-screen in general is nothing new or special even. The 1989 Oldsmobile Toronado, Buick Reatta, and Buick Riviera had all-digital gauges and a touch-screen interface (GM Visual Information Center).
GM introduced it 17 years ago:
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Besides utilizing touch-screen, the new G35 has a hard-drive based Navigation System. It is a brand new design. The M still uses the older outdated DVD based system. When the M gets updated, I am sure it will get all of these things as well.
Also, touch-screen in general is nothing new or special even. The 1989 Oldsmobile Toronado, Buick Reatta, and Buick Riviera had all-digital gauges and a touch-screen interface (GM Visual Information Center).
GM introduced it 17 years ago:
http://i1.ebayimg.com/05/a/08/e5/82/4d_4.JPG
http://urbanfury.subalias.com/img/forumimages/17_4.JPG
Again, I don't know how dirty some of the fingers are, but are people always eating greasy burrito when they're driving and using nav?
If so, a cheap $10 sticker overlay will take care of that
Well with lexus, you don't have to worry about inputting your destination while driving b/c it won't work
Am I being too picky that an American car don't know how to spell "gauges"???
If so, a cheap $10 sticker overlay will take care of that
Well with lexus, you don't have to worry about inputting your destination while driving b/c it won't work
Am I being too picky that an American car don't know how to spell "gauges"???
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That's pretty hilarious!
Really? None of the dictionary websites mention anything of the sort. Maybe just a whole lot of engineers who can't spell or use it as slight shorthand?
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Originally Posted by dictionary.com
gauge /geɪdʒ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[geyj] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, gauged, gaug·ing, noun
–verb (used with object)
1. to determine the exact dimensions, capacity, quantity, or force of; measure.
2. to appraise, estimate, or judge.
3. to make conformable to a standard.
4. to mark or measure off; delineate.
5. to prepare or mix (plaster) with a definite proportion of plaster of Paris and mortar.
6. to chip or rub (bricks or stones) to a uniform size or shape.
–noun
7. a standard of measure or measurement.
8. a standard dimension, size, or quantity.
9. any device or instrument for measuring, registering measurements, or testing something, esp. for measuring a dimension, quantity, or mechanical accuracy: pressure gauge; marking gauge.
10. a means of estimating or judging; criterion; test.
11. extent; scope; capacity: trying to determine the gauge of his own strength.
12. Ordnance. a unit of measure of the internal diameter of a shotgun barrel, determined by the number of spherical lead bullets of a diameter equal to that of the bore that are required to make one pound: a twelve-gauge shotgun.
13. Railroads. the distance between the inner edges of the heads of the rails in a track, usually 4 ft. 8.5 in. (1.4 m) (standard gauge), but sometimes more (broad gauge) and sometimes less (narrow gauge).
14. the distance between a pair of wheels on an axle.
15. the thickness or diameter of various, usually thin, objects, as the thickness of sheet metal or the diameter of a wire or screw.
16. the fineness of a knitted fabric as expressed in loops per every 1.5 in. (3.8 cm): 15 denier, 60 gauge stockings.
17. Nautical. the position of one vessel as being to the windward (weather gauge) or to the leeward (lee gauge) of another vessel on an approximately parallel course.
18. Building Trades. the portion of the length of a slate, tile, etc., left exposed when laid in place.
19. the amount of plaster of Paris mixed with mortar or common plaster to hasten the set.
Also, especially in technical use, gage.
[Origin: 1375–1425; late ME < ONF (F jauge) < Gmc]
—Related forms
gauge·a·ble, adjective
gauge·a·bly, adverb
—Synonyms 2. evaluate, assess, value, calculate.
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
–verb (used with object)
1. to determine the exact dimensions, capacity, quantity, or force of; measure.
2. to appraise, estimate, or judge.
3. to make conformable to a standard.
4. to mark or measure off; delineate.
5. to prepare or mix (plaster) with a definite proportion of plaster of Paris and mortar.
6. to chip or rub (bricks or stones) to a uniform size or shape.
–noun
7. a standard of measure or measurement.
8. a standard dimension, size, or quantity.
9. any device or instrument for measuring, registering measurements, or testing something, esp. for measuring a dimension, quantity, or mechanical accuracy: pressure gauge; marking gauge.
10. a means of estimating or judging; criterion; test.
11. extent; scope; capacity: trying to determine the gauge of his own strength.
12. Ordnance. a unit of measure of the internal diameter of a shotgun barrel, determined by the number of spherical lead bullets of a diameter equal to that of the bore that are required to make one pound: a twelve-gauge shotgun.
13. Railroads. the distance between the inner edges of the heads of the rails in a track, usually 4 ft. 8.5 in. (1.4 m) (standard gauge), but sometimes more (broad gauge) and sometimes less (narrow gauge).
14. the distance between a pair of wheels on an axle.
15. the thickness or diameter of various, usually thin, objects, as the thickness of sheet metal or the diameter of a wire or screw.
16. the fineness of a knitted fabric as expressed in loops per every 1.5 in. (3.8 cm): 15 denier, 60 gauge stockings.
17. Nautical. the position of one vessel as being to the windward (weather gauge) or to the leeward (lee gauge) of another vessel on an approximately parallel course.
18. Building Trades. the portion of the length of a slate, tile, etc., left exposed when laid in place.
19. the amount of plaster of Paris mixed with mortar or common plaster to hasten the set.
Also, especially in technical use, gage.
[Origin: 1375–1425; late ME < ONF (F jauge) < Gmc]
—Related forms
gauge·a·ble, adjective
gauge·a·bly, adverb
—Synonyms 2. evaluate, assess, value, calculate.
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
Originally Posted by dictionary.com
gage2 /geɪdʒ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[geyj] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, verb (used with object), gaged, gag·ing. (chiefly in technical use)
gauge.
—Related forms
gager, noun
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
–noun, verb (used with object), gaged, gag·ing. (chiefly in technical use)
gauge.
—Related forms
gager, noun
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
Originally Posted by dictionary.com
gage 3 (gāj) Pronunciation Key
n. & v.
Variant of gauge.
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n. & v.
Variant of gauge.
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