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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 06:15 AM
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I'm a new guy.......I drive a 2000 saab 9.3 SE turbo w/ the high output engine....great car daily driver excellant condition.....some modes.....suspension, steering...ect.....

but, I can't do much more to it......I want to get a SC300 or SC400....not, sure...got q's

1] what are the engine numbers for both cars...? na/t...?

2] how hard is it to get another engine and about how nuch are they.....?

any help would be appreciated......thx....
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Check out this website when you get a chance: www.intellexual.net

The SC300 uses the I6 2jZ-GE N/A engine, and is swappable with the 2JZ-GTE or 1JZ-GTE turbo motors. You could also look into going NA-T with a turbo kit on the stock motor if you didn't want to swap the 2JZ-GE.

The SC400 uses the V8 1UZ-FE motor.

Swaps can be pricey, but mostly because of labor. You can pick up the motor and all necessary parts for close to $1500. If you do the install yourself, you won't be looking at more than $2000 maximum.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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I had to replace the saab engine at 65000 miles and it cost me 3 grand for the used engine and about 1500 labor....got a good engine used about 30000 miles on it.....

but thought maybe if i got a lexus i would get a more reliable car in the long run....
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Originally Posted by vdog
I had to replace the saab engine at 65000 miles and it cost me 3 grand for the used engine and about 1500 labor....got a good engine used about 30000 miles on it.....

but thought maybe if i got a lexus i would get a more reliable car in the long run....
You will, many members have well over 200k on their original motors.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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I'm finding that out.....lexus is more reliable and I think the interior is as good as any german made car.or euro car for that matter...I had a 1990 bmw 535 , had trubs with it....bought a 2000 saab and had trubs with it....


sick of euro cars...

can't wait to get a good SC300/400 or maybe even a LS400, .....thanks for your help

on the engine numbers.....
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Ah the 1uz isnt no 1500.00 at least for the 98+ ones.
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whats a good deal on the 1UZ-FE engine and how hard are they to get.....?
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Ah the 1uz isnt no 1500.00 at least for the 98+ ones.
I'm sorry I should have specified. The 1JZ can be had for $1500. I'm not sure about 1UZ or 2JZGTE prices, but why would you want to buy another 1UZ? Just buy an SC4....
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Im working on it......, just researching.....don't know the advantages with one or the other...

if a person was to buy a sc3 and sc/turbo charge it, how much slower would it be from 0-60mph than a sc4....?.....thought I might save a little bit in insurance with an sc3...but, will probably buy an sc4 in the end..?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you turbo an SC3 you will be significantly quicker than a stock SC4. Supercharging an SC4 is going to be more costly than turbocharging an SC3.
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thats what I want to know.....

I could go with the sc3 and sc or t/charge it and have a nice/fast car that would suit me fine........

and if the engine goes , I wont have too much trouble finding a replacment....
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You can get 1UZ's in the $750 to $1000 range, but they are all pre VVT-I. Plus they are "JDM imported motors with approx 40,000 k on them", and we know how reliable that can be.

For a newer, low mileage 1UZ, you're probably going to be almost $2,000 and up. I really don't think that's necessary when you can get an entire SC400 with prices ranging from $5000 to $25000.

A turbo'd SC3 being faster than a SC4? Yes and no. Depends upon what is now in that SC3. I don't believe the stock 2JZ-GTE is faster. Probably on par. Torque will get the SC4 off the line better, but the 2J would probably begin to pull as speeds increase. All of this is moot with a little increase in boost though. Bye-bye SC4.

Supercharging a SC4 I believe is the most expensive route. The only superchargers made to fit the SC's are in Australia and are not cheap. That's just parts alone. More cost effective (and I feel, more efficient) to turbo a SC4. But that again will not be cheap. Just ask Morris who posted in this thread.(His is a turbo GS4 - same engine though) I've been following his build up over tha past year or so and I'm sure he can attest to some of the hurdles he had to overcome!

If you're looking for big power, the SC3 is the cost effective way to go. The 1JZ & 2JZ-GTE are turbo motors. No-brainers, drop in, turn up boost, rather easily hitting 300+ rwhp. Drop a kit on a 2JZ-GE, some fine tuning, same scenario.

Really the decision is up to you. What are your goals vdog?

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I want fast/reliable car....I can get fast/unreliable or I can get slow/reliable car....

a car I can build on when I got the funds. ...and drive evryday.....

thats why i am here...I think that the lexus brand is going to get me the best of both worlds...or as close as i can get...

I have tried BMW and SAAB and I think you invest way too much money in those for the return in fun..DON'T GET ME WRONG, THEY ARE NICE....

but, the engines in those will blow with 50k or 60k miles on them...me no like...if you buy one new and baby it they will last a long time....


The interior of the SC3/SC4 are just as nice as the euro car makers....and the things you can do with the SC3 is cool....

the SC4.... not sure, an eight cylinder does have a nice sound and lots of torqe, I'm sure it would be all I would need......

but, I am looking at used cars on line and will buy the most with what I have.........

thanks for the help.....

hey, great web site....
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iF you want easy high power go with the sc300, there is plenty of aftermarket support and many have already gone down this path.

SC'ing a 400 is not going to be easy or cheap, you could probably do a turbo but again it is somewhat of a custom undertaking.
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