2005 Avalon Preview- official pictures
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Don't forget......you guys aren't going to be young forever. There will come a time when many of you may want a car like this. Generally, the older people get, the softer the ride they want. I was an exception to the general rule myself. When I was young and growing up, I liked BOTH softly-sprung luxoboats AND stiffly-sprung muscle cars....still do today. I enjoyed driving them both....there was a time and place for each one.
As for the spungy luxo-barges - a well-tuned suspension setup is often the first active safety measure that one employs in driving. I understand that many new luxury models have all sorts of electronic correction systems which can afford both safety and a plush ride. But older sponge-mobiles were just plain dangerous.
Some of you are lucky enough to have ABS and/or AWD to back that up.
M.
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how long before this 280hp powerplant makes it way into all the other V6 sedans and is this the same engine thats gonna be shared with the new Lexus sedans, like the IS and GS3
as for that spongy sedan ride, I saw some guy who was speeding and got cut off, lock his caddie up and I've never seen the back end of a car go that high, you could have stuck the front of a camry in their and it would have cleared it, the car was pretty new looking so the severe nose dive and everything was real shocking and yeah I was rooting for a collision
as for that spongy sedan ride, I saw some guy who was speeding and got cut off, lock his caddie up and I've never seen the back end of a car go that high, you could have stuck the front of a camry in their and it would have cleared it, the car was pretty new looking so the severe nose dive and everything was real shocking and yeah I was rooting for a collision
Originally Posted by Stage3
looks SWEET!!! the shaved handles look ultra tight. so find some wheels that would look right at that angle and lets see what comes out.
the Wheels are Blitz Technospeed's RV. 2's if i rmbr right.
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Originally Posted by whipimpin
As for the spungy luxo-barges - a well-tuned suspension setup is often the first active safety measure that one employs in driving. But older sponge-mobiles were just plain dangerous.
M.
M.
And.....after a hard working day, they were COMFORTABLE. They didn't beat you up on the way home.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
OK....I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I won't comment any more on the Avalon until I can see it and test-drive it in person. I KNOW the ES330 is a true luxury car. The Avalon will have to prove itself.....but maybe it will. Like I said...I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now. 
Factor in Lexus service, a lower-pressure sales experience, and the Lexus brand prestige and I think it's clear exactly how the ES330 remains, and will remain, atop the Avalon in the entry-level luxury market.
M.
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Originally Posted by whipimpin
The Avalon will be ES330 competition, objectively, considering only the vehicles.
Factor in Lexus service, a lower-pressure sales experience, and the Lexus brand prestige and I think it's clear exactly how the ES330 remains, and will remain, atop the Avalon in the entry-level luxury market.
M.
Factor in Lexus service, a lower-pressure sales experience, and the Lexus brand prestige and I think it's clear exactly how the ES330 remains, and will remain, atop the Avalon in the entry-level luxury market.
M.
My Toyota dealer is low pressure, might have to do with the line of people waiting to buy the same car you walk away from just like the Lexus dealer, Lexus service is good but many do not like the ridiculously high prices and the service, my Toyota dealer has better service prices, faster service and is just as nice as Lexus minus the mall like atmosphere
although the food court is cool
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Originally Posted by 2jzgte
Can't Toyota design their own cars anymore? Seriously I like their cars but anyone can see how blatantly they steal their cars' styling from other companies.
