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Old May 6, 2026 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
and i predict you won't get a tz for that (with under 300 range on 80mph trip to W VA).
Which is an issue for Lexus. More range and people like me would buy the vehicle.

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You and your family must all have iron bladders. I wouldnt want to go more than 2.5-3hrs without stopping, even if its just to stretch my legs and fill up if needed. That said, I wouldnt want to be locked into a route based on available chargers. I want the shortest and/or fastest route and going along routes with chargers may not be it.
Theres stopping, and then there is stopping for 30-60 minutes. We stop, but we stop for 10 minutes once during the trip. That 11 minute stop with the Rivian is great, 55 minutes or stopping twice once for over 30 minutes is a no go.
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Old May 6, 2026 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Which is an issue for Lexus. More range and people like me would buy the vehicle.



Theres stopping, and then there is stopping for 30-60 minutes. We stop, but we stop for 10 minutes once during the trip. That 11 minute stop with the Rivian is great, 55 minutes or stopping twice once for over 30 minutes is a no go.
30-60 min stops are for lunch, not to hang out at a charger.
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Old May 6, 2026 | 09:46 AM
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30-60 min stops are for lunch, not to hang out at a charger.
Exactly! You eat and charge at the same time.
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Exactly! You eat and charge at the same time.
This depends on whether the chargers are at places where you can do this. Most here aren't, they're in parking lots of Walmarts or at convenience stores.

With that said, I don't stop and have a leisurely lunch while I'm traveling, we have a dog...what do we do with him? If I stop I want to stop for 20 min tops and I only want to stop once on a 350 mile trip. This is why range is really important in a family vehicle like this if they want it to be successful. Most people aren't buying a big 3 row vehicle just to drive a family around town.
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So what time does the embargo lift, and/or livestream of the event?

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Old May 6, 2026 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
This depends on whether the chargers are at places where you can do this. Most here aren't, they're in parking lots of Walmarts or at convenience stores.

With that said, I don't stop and have a leisurely lunch while I'm traveling, we have a dog...what do we do with him? If I stop I want to stop for 20 min tops and I only want to stop once on a 350 mile trip. This is why range is really important in a family vehicle like this if they want it to be successful. Most people aren't buying a big 3 row vehicle just to drive a family around town.
Seriously, why does your specific situation apply to "most people "? 🤔

Similar to the comment you made earlier "Nobody with an EV will drive the distances that Striker drives 2/3 times/year"

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Originally Posted by Hameed
Seriously, why does your specific situation apply to "most people "? 🤔

Similar to the comment you made earlier "Nobody with an EV will drive the distances that Striker drives 2/3 times/year"
The reality is, not many people will want to stop more than they have to on a trip or stop longer than they have to on any trip for that matter. They just want to get their destination asap. Outside of the major EV states like Cali, chargers are not abundant and the ones we have in malls, parking lots and etc are just another parking spot for Teslas and who knows how long they will stay there for.

And the fact of the matter is that the automotive market is still majority ICE, not EV. So I guess his statement about "most people" still makes sense?
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Originally Posted by situman
The reality is, not many people will want to stop more than they have to on a trip or stop longer than they have to on any trip for that matter. They just want to get their destination asap. Outside of the major EV states like Cali, chargers are not abundant and the ones we have in malls, parking lots and etc are just another parking spot for Teslas and who knows how long they will stay there for.
Fair enough 👍
And the fact of the matter is that the automotive market is still majority ICE, not EV. So I guess his statement about "most people" still makes sense?
No I was referring to this comment you made

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Nobody would choose an EV for the above trip, but you have multiple cars, if you bought an EV it wouldn't be a car for you to take on that trip, you would just take another car.
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Originally Posted by Hameed
Seriously, why does your specific situation apply to "most people "? 🤔

Similar to the comment you made earlier "Nobody with an EV will drive the distances that Striker drives 2/3 times/year"
I think I am a pretty good example of a target buyer for this vehicle, and as someone that is exploring going to an EV for this specific type of vehicle.

Like I said before, I don't think a lot of people buy a 3 row family vehicle and don't plan on driving it on trips with their family. 350 mile trip is not an unusually long road trip.

300 miles of range and these things will be a $700 lease like the other lousy EV offerings from Lexus.
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Originally Posted by Hameed
Fair enough 👍
No I was referring to this comment you made
Well I didnt make the above statement and not sure why he would make THAT assumption lol. EV folks do take long trips and some might even enjoy it.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I think I am a pretty good example of a target buyer for this vehicle, and as someone that is exploring going to an EV for this specific type of vehicle.

Like I said before, I don't think a lot of people buy a 3 row family vehicle and don't plan on driving it on trips with their family. 350 mile trip is not an unusually long road trip.

300 miles of range and these things will be a $700 lease like the other lousy EV offerings from Lexus.
350 mile trip is about 5 hrs with stops and breaks. I would classify that as a long trip. Also, if you are traveling with an EV, it's probably best practice to charge it mid way since your hotel may not have a charger for you or someone is parked there and now you are panicking and looking for a charger at the end of the trip and you have 10% left. So the ideal range is 400 miles really.
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Originally Posted by situman
350 mile trip is about 5 hrs with stops and breaks. I would classify that as a long trip. Also, if you are traveling with an EV, it's probably best practice to charge it mid way since your hotel may not have a charger for you or someone is parked there and now you are panicking and looking for a charger at the end of the trip and you have 10% left. So the ideal range is 400 miles really.
Its not a short trip, but its not an unusually long trip. Agree ideal range IMO for that use is 400 miles.
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I’m honestly curious how this would work vs our LX. Just to see the habits that would change.
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