Stay away from Lucid
I learned through 3 years of leasing my Polestar that it doesn't matter how good the hardware is if the software is bad. Although I think Polestar does a way better job when it comes to software...they seemed to have fixed a lot of the bugs over the three years I leased it. I still had to reboot the infotainment system at least twice a month. It wasn't a big deal at the time because the thing drove and performed so well, but after owning two Tesla's, I have no tolerance for dealing with buggy software and crappy infotainment systems
I've never had anything like that in a car, I have left some of mine sitting so long they disable the passive locks etc and go into a super deep sleep including totally locking out the air suspensions. Every time though when I open a door they wake back up without any fuss and restart all systems with no glitches. It would be extremely strange and undesirable for me to have to deal with tech type issues in a car/mechanical device.
My Ioniq 5 had good software. It sucked, but it wasn't glitchy. Well, except for the software that controlled the low voltage battery, I had to take it in 3 times to get it updated
The thing is, though, with modern cars in general but particularly with an EV if the main failing is poor software performance it's the easiest of all issues to address. If the OEM doesn't, it's entirely on them and entirely by choice. Buyers absolutely must factor this in and buy accordingly.
The thing is, though, with modern cars in general but particularly with an EV if the main failing is poor software performance it's the easiest of all issues to address. If the OEM doesn't, it's entirely on them and entirely by choice. Buyers absolutely must factor this in and buy accordingly.
I remember when Lucid was launching the Air the early reviews generally noted that there were some significant UI issues and usually trotted out the "the UI wasn't great, but it's pre-release software and Lucid tell us that an update is coming that will fix everything" line they'd been fed by Lucid - and here we are with the same issues a few years in.
ALL moderns cars are rolling software vaults, difference is legacy vehicles are made using a different approach: modules generally can't be updated via OTA. Or at all. Anyone that says I don't want my new car to be loaded with software, too bad it already is.
. Since it was a rare occurrence, maybe once or twice a month, l just lived with it.As far as Lucid is concerned, no excuse. I think it's that sugar daddy Saudi money making them in no rush
That issue plagued the Camry and ES at the time, it was never fixed. Oddly enough the Highlander did not have the janky throttle mapping problems even though the transmission was nearly the same.
In fairness to Lucid software is hard look at VW, they've spent billions trying to unify their stack and move into the modern era so far they've failed. Their latest attempt is to shoehorn Rivian software into their cars.
In fairness to Lucid software is hard look at VW, they've spent billions trying to unify their stack and move into the modern era so far they've failed. Their latest attempt is to shoehorn Rivian software into their cars.
That issue plagued the Camry and ES at the time, it was never fixed. Oddly enough the Highlander did not have the janky throttle mapping problems even though the transmission was nearly the same.
In fairness to Lucid software is hard look at VW, they've spent billions trying to unify their stack and move into the modern era so far they've failed. Their latest attempt is to shoehorn Rivian software into their cars.
In fairness to Lucid software is hard look at VW, they've spent billions trying to unify their stack and move into the modern era so far they've failed. Their latest attempt is to shoehorn Rivian software into their cars.
Lucid supposably builds the hardware and software in-house, while VW uses third parties such as Bosch, so I don't know if Lucid should get a pass. Polestar which relied on Android Automotive at least fixed stuff, most things worked, although sometimes it took multiple updates
Some people hated the unpredictable shifting and throttle response so much they got rid of the car.
Not saying they should. It comes down to commitment this starts with the CEO. A common approach I see is auto makers throwing hardware at a problem assuming the software side will work itself out.
Lucid supposably builds the hardware and software in-house, while VW uses third parties such as Bosch, so I don't know if Lucid should get a pass. Polestar which relied on Android Automotive at least fixed stuff, most things worked, although sometimes it took multiple updates
new cars are mobile git repositories.
Last edited by bitkahuna; Dec 13, 2025 at 09:18 PM.
I swear some people think gas cars still have carburettors and points. How else to explain the argument that EVs are rolling computers but petrol cars are not. Ever modern car has some form of radar cruise, lane keep, remote access etc. if anything a gas car has more complexity have to worry about basic functions plus engine management. And emissions controls, ugh. Then there are hybrids and plug-in hybrids, even worse. EVs are stupid easy to work on most complicated thing you'll do is swapping out bearings in a drive unit. Compare that to rebuilding an engine.
This is true. My 2006 Camry SE (with the 3.3L V6) had this issue where sometimes if you were driving at low speed and needed to hit the throttle hard, the transmission would get confused, hesitate then slam into a lower gear. It was very jolting, and felt like was slamming. The first few times it happened I thought something broke. It didn't a lot, but enough times that I took it to the dealership who claimed they couldn't reproduce it. Anyway several fluid swaps, nothing fixed it. After doing some research, I found out other Camry owners were complaining about the same exact issue. Finally I got a service manager to admit it was an actual issue, it was being caused by bad programming in an ECM module, the only remedy is either an "updated" module or new transmission, but since Toyota wasn't publicly admitting it was a problem...it only happened occasionally, there was no replacement options available
. Since it was a rare occurrence, maybe once or twice a month, l just lived with it.
As far as Lucid is concerned, no excuse. I think it's that sugar daddy Saudi money making them in no rush
. Since it was a rare occurrence, maybe once or twice a month, l just lived with it.As far as Lucid is concerned, no excuse. I think it's that sugar daddy Saudi money making them in no rush
I swear some people think gas cars still have carburettors and points. How else to explain the argument that EVs are rolling computers but petrol cars are not. Ever modern car has some form of radar cruise, lane keep, remote access etc. if anything a gas car has more complexity have to worry about basic functions plus engine management. And emissions controls, ugh. Then there are hybrids and plug-in hybrids, even worse. EVs are stupid easy to work on most complicated thing you'll do is swapping out bearings in a drive unit. Compare that to rebuilding an engine.













