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Old Feb 3, 2025 | 10:33 AM
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I’m pretty young here. So it’s safe to say I’ve never been in a car that required turning the A/C off to get up to speed.

Although my first car was a 2007 Volvo XC90 wasn’t the fastest car in the world with a 0-60 time of 9.1 seconds. As long as I revved the snot out of it, it would get up the highway speeds quickly enough for me.
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Originally Posted by Carfan94
I’m pretty young here. So it’s safe to say I’ve never been in a car that required turning the A/C off to get up to speed.

Although my first car was a 2007 Volvo XC90 wasn’t the fastest car in the world with a 0-60 time of 9.1 seconds. As long as I revved the snot out of it, it would get up the highway speeds quickly enough for me.
ahh so not the V8 model i take it XD


i miss that engine... it was a specially designed narrow V8 for transverse applications, and famously assembled by yamaha themselves!

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My first car was a 1972 Fiat 124 sedan. It was a 1438 cc pushrod inline 4 mated to a 3 speed automatic. Fiat stopped offering the 4 speed manual either in or just before 1972 because American drivers used to shift at low RPMs and lug the engine, which according to the word on the street, was problematic for these cars.

With a pavement peeling 68 bhp, the 124 would do 0-60 in about 14 seconds. Thing is, I was a 16 year old high school sophomore and I had a car, so it was cool regardless lol.
Old Feb 3, 2025 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by link13
My first car was a 1972 Fiat 124 sedan. It was a 1438 cc pushrod inline 4 mated to a 3 speed automatic. Fiat stopped offering the 4 speed manual either in or just before 1972 because American drivers used to shift at low RPMs and lug the engine, which according to the word on the street, was problematic for these cars.

With a pavement peeling 68 bhp, the 124 would do 0-60 in about 14 seconds. Thing is, I was a 16 year old high school sophomore and I had a car, so it was cool regardless lol.
i read that in clarkson's voice haha

but what you said is true! it's part of the reason the "italian tuneup" exists since those old engines don't like it if they don't get to stretch their legs every now and then
Old Feb 3, 2025 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
ahh so not the V8 model i take it XD

i miss that engine... it was a specially designed narrow V8 for transverse applications, and famously assembled by yamaha themselves!
Oh I wish! Mine had the lame 3.2 liter SI6. But my 2007 RX 350 that replaced the XC90 was much quicker.
Old Feb 3, 2025 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by link13
My first car was a 1972 Fiat 124 sedan. It was a 1438 cc pushrod inline 4 mated to a 3 speed automatic. Fiat stopped offering the 4 speed manual either in or just before 1972 because American drivers used to shift at low RPMs and lug the engine, which according to the word on the street, was problematic for these cars.

With a pavement peeling 68 bhp, the 124 would do 0-60 in about 14 seconds. Thing is, I was a 16 year old high school sophomore and I had a car, so it was cool regardless lol.
FIAT used to mean Fix It Again, Tony.
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Originally Posted by Carfan94
Oh I wish! Mine had the lame 3.2 liter SI6. But my 2007 RX 350 that replaced the XC90 was much quicker.
oh yea the 2GR hauls ***! and it had quite a bit less weight to lug around than the 3.2 in the volvo

i do have more of a soft spot for the original XC90 though... it was designed when volvo was still very much volvo and of course had that awesome b8444s engine as an option! anyone with a V8 XC90 or S80 can essentially say i'm driving a naturally aspirated detuned Noble M600 lol
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FIAT used to mean Fix It Again, Tony.
used to? when did their build quality improve haha
Old Feb 3, 2025 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
used to? when did their build quality improve haha
I must've slept thru those models because I can't remember any. Lol

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i miss that engine... it was a specially designed narrow V8 for transverse applications, and famously assembled by yamaha themselves!
That sounds cool to me. 🏆
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
ahh so not the V8 model i take it XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSDtrCxpKKI

i miss that engine... it was a specially designed narrow V8 for transverse applications, and famously assembled by yamaha themselves!
Oh trust me you don't miss it. Dear god I'm so tired of working on them and it's BAD packaging lol!

One of my best customers has THREE cars with that V8, two XC90s and an S80. I've become an accidental master of both XC90s and the 4.4....

Its a fun sounding engine though, not the smoothest thing every and Haldex AWD has that delay if you floor it but overall it's a good match to the trucks and quite nice indeed in the car



As far as slow goes my Jeep currently has a "redline" of 3000 rpm due to a failed headgasket, been that way for about 3 years now so 0-60 is about 19-24 seconds. It requires planning of a high degree if you need to merge and is the definition of disorienting when I have to use it for something because it's so so slow and relaxed feeling.

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Two day dried rain/road water.....





Ceramic is magic, so nice to not have to ever touch the cars!
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Originally Posted by Stroock639

i do have more of a soft spot for the original XC90 though... it was designed when volvo was still very much volvo and of course had that awesome b8444s engine as an option! anyone with a V8 XC90 or S80 can essentially say i'm driving a naturally aspirated detuned Noble M600 lol
I remember on Top Gear they were mocking Richard’s Noble M600 for having a “Volvo” engine in it! haha

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Oh trust me you don't miss it. Dear god I'm so tired of working on them and it's BAD packaging lol!



As far as slow goes my Jeep currently has a "redline" of 3000 rpm due to a failed headgasket, been that way for about 3 years now so 0-60 is about 19-24 seconds. It requires planning of a high degree if you need to merge and is the definition of disorienting when I have to use it for something because it's so so slow and relaxed feeling.
Geez. Why don’t you?

a) Fix it.
b) Get rid of it.

there’s no way I could put up with something that slow! Lol And I’m not a speed demon.
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Originally Posted by Carfan94
I remember on Top Gear they were mocking Richard’s Noble M600 for having a “Volvo” engine in it! haha



Geez. Why don’t you?

a) Fix it.
b) Get rid of it.

there’s no way I could put up with something that slow! Lol And I’m not a speed demon.
I'm just letting all my lazy fall upon that car, it turns on, it moves, it usually finds 4th without a massive bang. It's cost me under $2500 for a decade for all parts and buying the car in the first place lol!

You are right though, I need to fix it but if I touch it I will end up throwing a cam into it with head porting and fully rebuild the trans. The whole curse of "if I am going to bother at all I will do it right"
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Oh trust me you don't miss it. Dear god I'm so tired of working on them and it's BAD packaging lol!
damn and this is coming from the VW/audi guy, although i suppose you'd say VWs and audis have the best packaging haha

but what're some common problems with that volvo V8? an XC90 with that engine is something i've considered for a used SUV purchase at some point
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
My sister had a rental from enterprise. It leaked about a quart of oil at my house😡. I went with her to turn it back in and the enterprise guy that looked over it I pointed out that it had a substantial oil leak and he even bent down and saw it had already began to drip again. He said we’ll get it checked out.

Less than 5 minutes later he was handing those same keys to another renter. My sister knew the people getting her old rental, and I told them hey it’s leaking oil pretty bad. These rental companies don’t check/care.
they're in the business of renting cars not fixing oil leaks. maybe they needed the car to not upset the next customer and concluded they'll get the leak later?

Just like when I had a rental Q5, it called for 91 gas and I put 87 in it. 100% believe the rental company also ran 87 gas in it. Matter of fact I received the rental Q5 with a half tank of gas. For the 2900 miles I had it, it saw 87. I’m certain it saw 87 after I turned it back in.
so you put 87 in it and that's ok but you're criticizing enterprise for doing same?

Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
My cousin works for a company that maintain rental cars. I asked him do they actually maintain them? He said yes. Personally, all of his previous vehicles have all broken down and never came back to life. His truck has been sitting up for months in need of a transmission. He doesn’t work on anyone else cars in the family.
i think you're saying his "yes" is not a reliable indicator.

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Hertz got in trouble a few years ago for reporting rental cars as stolen, and getting renters pulled over and arrested.
why would they do that unless maybe the renter used a fraudulent credit card or something?

Originally Posted by Margate330
Y'all don't know what it was like back in the day.
I had to turn off my AC in a couple of cars I've owned before flooring it on the highway ramps.
The 1980's Volkswagen rabbit diesel was the worst.
Followed by a 1980s Subaru.
haha, when i just started driving a friend had a chevy chevette. car could barely accelerate at all with a/c on.

Originally Posted by Carfan94
Yes. Like insurance companies, they have no shame! Your story is not surprising.
insurance companies are just like casinos... one big set of calculations. they're not your friends or a charity though.




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