What BMW engine is supposed to be this bullet-proof new generation model?
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How old are these stories? GLK was last made in 2015? For sure we’ve heard about German reliability issues. But these are no longer accurate. I remember being reluctant getting my first BMW five years ago. Thanks to Steve and others here. It has been more reliable than some of my Lexus. Modern BMWs are very reliable. In fact their some models rank highest.
Steve did have a massive engine repair on his first German car…
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If Jill had her way all the other automakers would shut down and everybody would drive Toyotas 
I'll listen to all the techs that have said the B58 is solid. I've had the car now for a year and it's been great. I'm going to tune it here soon once ProTuningFreaks has their Black Friday sale.
Need to find one of the 8 GS350's in this city and take them to gapplebees.
I'll listen to all the techs that have said the B58 is solid. I've had the car now for a year and it's been great. I'm going to tune it here soon once ProTuningFreaks has their Black Friday sale.
Need to find one of the 8 GS350's in this city and take them to gapplebees.
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If Jill had her way all the other automakers would shut down and everybody would drive Toyotas
I'll listen to all the techs that have said the B58 is solid. I've had the car now for a year and it's been great. I'm going to tune it here soon once ProTuningFreaks has their Black Friday sale.
Need to find one of the 8 GS350's in this city and take them to gapplebees.
I'll listen to all the techs that have said the B58 is solid. I've had the car now for a year and it's been great. I'm going to tune it here soon once ProTuningFreaks has their Black Friday sale.
Need to find one of the 8 GS350's in this city and take them to gapplebees.
I tend to look at the aftermarket/performance side of it to determine if it’s a solid platform. The coyote and the B58 powertrains have held their own in the tuner world lately.
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The LX will be running with half the coolant missing and frying the heads and not tell you anything is wrong
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If Jill had her way all the other automakers would shut down and everybody would drive Toyotas
I'll listen to all the techs that have said the B58 is solid. I've had the car now for a year and it's been great. I'm going to tune it here soon once ProTuningFreaks has their Black Friday sale.
Need to find one of the 8 GS350's in this city and take them to gapplebees.
I'll listen to all the techs that have said the B58 is solid. I've had the car now for a year and it's been great. I'm going to tune it here soon once ProTuningFreaks has their Black Friday sale.
Need to find one of the 8 GS350's in this city and take them to gapplebees.
I was in the market to replace my 08 recently, and after driving a 20 (1st refresh), and then a 21 (2nd refresh), it kind of steered me into looking at others as I just felt it didnt set itself apart from the older models or the competition. Don't get me wrong, I love my IS and still have it and is by far the most reliable car I've ever owned. But fun wise, a used M340 just ticked all the boxes. I would have liked an IS500, but those are a bit on the pricey side still.
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Sadly, the current IS platform dates back to 2013. I imagine the sales numbers are the reason why Toyota just wants to keep dragging out the XE30 platform vs a new model. They won't outright kill it as that would just leave the ES and LS.
I was in the market to replace my 08 recently, and after driving a 20 (1st refresh), and then a 21 (2nd refresh), it kind of steered me into looking at others as I just felt it didnt set itself apart from the older models or the competition. Don't get me wrong, I love my IS and still have it and is by far the most reliable car I've ever owned. But fun wise, a used M340 just ticked all the boxes. I would have liked an IS500, but those are a bit on the pricey side still.
I was in the market to replace my 08 recently, and after driving a 20 (1st refresh), and then a 21 (2nd refresh), it kind of steered me into looking at others as I just felt it didnt set itself apart from the older models or the competition. Don't get me wrong, I love my IS and still have it and is by far the most reliable car I've ever owned. But fun wise, a used M340 just ticked all the boxes. I would have liked an IS500, but those are a bit on the pricey side still.
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Sadly, the current IS platform dates back to 2013. I imagine the sales numbers are the reason why Toyota just wants to keep dragging out the XE30 platform vs a new model. They won't outright kill it as that would just leave the ES and LS.
I was in the market to replace my 08 recently, and after driving a 20 (1st refresh), and then a 21 (2nd refresh), it kind of steered me into looking at others as I just felt it didnt set itself apart from the older models or the competition. Don't get me wrong, I love my IS and still have it and is by far the most reliable car I've ever owned. But fun wise, a used M340 just ticked all the boxes. I would have liked an IS500, but those are a bit on the pricey side still.
I was in the market to replace my 08 recently, and after driving a 20 (1st refresh), and then a 21 (2nd refresh), it kind of steered me into looking at others as I just felt it didnt set itself apart from the older models or the competition. Don't get me wrong, I love my IS and still have it and is by far the most reliable car I've ever owned. But fun wise, a used M340 just ticked all the boxes. I would have liked an IS500, but those are a bit on the pricey side still.
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I never said overheating, I said system failures just like BMWs. BMWs have plastic shatter and vent coolant, buy they have level sensors and 3 temp sensors and will warn you of issues and level before it dies.
The LX will be running with half the coolant missing and frying the heads and not tell you anything is wrong
The LX will be running with half the coolant missing and frying the heads and not tell you anything is wrong
Is that a known issue with an LX570? Overheating? No. I’ve never even heard of a J200 overheating, ever. The radiators go sometimes but it’s overblown… people don’t change their coolant and it turns acidic and exacerbates it..But like I said, 142k and going strong. I’d drive it through Death Valley tomorrow. I feel very confident with my radiator and overall cooling system.. The cooling fans are next level….
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Overheating is a system failure lol.
Is that a known issue with an LX570? Overheating? No. I’ve never even heard of a J200 overheating, ever. The radiators go sometimes but it’s overblown… people don’t change their coolant and it turns acidic and exacerbates it..But like I said, 142k and going strong. I’d drive it through Death Valley tomorrow. I feel very confident with my radiator and overall cooling system.. The cooling fans are next level….
Is that a known issue with an LX570? Overheating? No. I’ve never even heard of a J200 overheating, ever. The radiators go sometimes but it’s overblown… people don’t change their coolant and it turns acidic and exacerbates it..But like I said, 142k and going strong. I’d drive it through Death Valley tomorrow. I feel very confident with my radiator and overall cooling system.. The cooling fans are next level….
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It is what it is, they're known for not being the greatest with cooling. Not trying to be a jerk about BMW, I used to love their cars.
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BMWs overheat like crazy are you serious??? My buddy with a 3 series that's not even old, I get told stories about how he limps it home with the heat on windows down to keep the needle from the red.
It is what it is, they're known for not being the greatest with cooling. Not trying to be a jerk about BMW, I used to love their cars.
It is what it is, they're known for not being the greatest with cooling. Not trying to be a jerk about BMW, I used to love their cars.
The overheat happens because of coolant loss and air lock not because the system is poorly designed. The plastic interlink hoses that YOUR LEXUS CARS ALSO HAVE are what crack and leak letting air into the high points were it can't auto purge. However the German cars have level and temps sensors (multiple) that if you aren't an idiot will tell you EXACTLY where the air lock is and that it is happening. Lexus will not.
If BMW had cooling issues you wouldn't see 700-1000HP builds using stock or near stock cooling systems.
My 4.0 Audi had cooling issues, turbo intercooler coolant loop got heat saturated after 3 runs to 60 or if I did a full pull over 130 mph. That's a cooling issue. I shouldn't lose power from heat soak in a properly sized and flowing system, losing coolant and overheating is an owner stupidity issue.
My S4 has a cracked aux rad, it leaks but I never let it get low enough to allow air into the heads or heater core and it has a warning alarm if the degas bottle goes 3/4 empty as well. Never even seen the alarm, aux rad should be on my front steps when I'm home from work today and it will be fixed.....but it's never once overheated this whole time I've been using it for 2300 miles
Great example right here! 182k miles and only just now got a leak
Level sensor warned customer yesterday so he knew to bring it to me, I have gotten dozens of Toyotas with empty bottles and low rads from slow leaks whose owners never even knew
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Not when they bought their used vehicles but when their used vehicles were made. Those are two different dates. It was Steve that pushed me over to German side when I was considering a BMW five years ago. From my experience and what I have seen, he seems to know a thing or two when he talks.
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Holy hell man you aren't listening to me at all.
The overheat happens because of coolant loss and air lock not because the system is poorly designed. The plastic interlink hoses that YOUR LEXUS CARS ALSO HAVE are what crack and leak letting air into the high points were it can't auto purge. However the German cars have level and temps sensors (multiple) that if you aren't an idiot will tell you EXACTLY where the air lock is and that it is happening. Lexus will not.
If BMW had cooling issues you wouldn't see 700-1000HP builds using stock or near stock cooling systems.
Level sensor warned customer yesterday so he knew to bring it to me, I have gotten dozens of Toyotas with empty bottles and low rads from slow leaks whose owners never even knew
The overheat happens because of coolant loss and air lock not because the system is poorly designed. The plastic interlink hoses that YOUR LEXUS CARS ALSO HAVE are what crack and leak letting air into the high points were it can't auto purge. However the German cars have level and temps sensors (multiple) that if you aren't an idiot will tell you EXACTLY where the air lock is and that it is happening. Lexus will not.
If BMW had cooling issues you wouldn't see 700-1000HP builds using stock or near stock cooling systems.
Level sensor warned customer yesterday so he knew to bring it to me, I have gotten dozens of Toyotas with empty bottles and low rads from slow leaks whose owners never even knew
While my friend with a 3 series like I said has to drive around getting the temp in the red.