They didn't want to paralyze the big three immediately. Ultimately the ideal outcome is minimal disruption and that goes for both sides. Taking out the pickup plants would also deplete their strike fund very quickly.

 

In an ultimate sense, I understand your point. But, if the main goal was the least amount of disruption possible, there probably would not have been a strike in the first place.

 

This situation makes me think of a quote from a long time ago, "Never bite the hand that feeds you"

 

Yep....and what the companies often forget is that labor helps feed THEM....and makes those fat executive salaries/perks possible.

 

Lots of labor to be had for less overseas, this just makes moving production to China etc much more appealing.

 

The executives are meaningless in terms of their cost to the company vs even simple expenses. They just get all the attention because people can't cope with those who are paid that much so they clearly must be the issue

 

That's one reason why I won't buy a vehicle built in China. I can't control what other people do, but I won't support screwing American workers just to save some labor $$$.

 

You bought a car built in Korea, that screws the American workers all the same. If you felt strongly about that conviction there were many cars you could have bought built my American labor.

Built in China vs built in Korea makes no difference to the workers. Point is...they didn't build your car.

 

I don't agree. Even if the vehicle is not built in the U.S., either you support unionized labor or you don't. And, unlike China, South Korea is one of our allies. It is no different from you getting an S-Class built in Germany....with a German union.

 

The problem with that is the labor they provide is really not worth what they're asking for. I don't think I remember you ever saying that the minimum wage should be raised to like $20/hr. It's really not much different.

 

Nope...never said that. I have never belived in one single, set, minimum wage for the whole country. Living costs just vary way oo much between cheap places like WV, KY, AR, etc... and super-expensive places like NYC, Alaska, and the West Coast. I've advocated floating-minimum wages, depending on the area.

 

That's not what they're asking for, though. So you don't support their current contract demands? You seem to be deflecting.

 

I support most of them...not all of them. The pensions are the things that I am most behind......Social Security alone won't cut it.

 

Sorry, thats just total hypocrisy. You can't admonish others for not supporting American labor when you yourself don't. You keep moving the goalposts, first you say "American labor" then its "unionized labor" then its okay if its one of our allies. The bottom line is, you don't care enough about it to speak with your wallet so stop admonishing others for doing what you yourself do. People in Korea are not American. You could have used your dollars to support American labor and you chose not to, bottom line.

I am not going around admonishing people for not buying products built by American labor, if I did so in light of the fact that I have had many cars built outside the US it would be as hypocritical as you doing so. I have NO problem buying a product I want built outside the US, and I completely understand why companies want to move their manufacturing offshore, its just too expensive to manufacture goods here. We can either reduce the cost of doing so, or we can retool our citizenry to do work other than manufacturing.

I love the IDEA of buying things made here, but in reality stuff I like isn't built here and I don't care about that enough to compromise what I buy.

 

UAW is assembling vehicles using parts not made in America so why should GM and Ford bother having plants in the United States anymore? Top 10 American made doesn't even include GM and Ford. Stellantis is not an American company in any way.
https://www.cars.com/american-made-index/

I fail to see what value the UAW is offering on any level.