Well than that's all that matters. Believe it or not, I was actually shopping for either a used GSF, a slightly used LC, or a slightly used RCF back in 2021. I love V8's for their smoothness, effortless torque and of course, sound. If I decided to abandon EV'S (won't happen ), I would either own something today with TT V6 or V8. Nothing less

 

For full size trucks, must be a V8 for me.

The simplicity of it is very attractive.

Turbos belong on diesels because they need them... or... sports cars and luxury cars just for fun.

 

Most people just don’t care about cars like we do. There is also a difference between wanting something and wanting to pay for it even if you can.

For instance I can buy whatever I want and I’m in the market for a GLS, I have no intention on getting a 580. Would I rather have the 580? Yes but it’s not worth $25,000 to me in that vehicle where I’m not going to be the primary driver and my wife doesn’t care.

 

I don't totally disagree with this but I think there are more enthusiasts than you think. We are still the minority, though. Someone can "not care" and still really be into cars. Lots of people in my family are that way. It wasn't just me that thought it had to be a Denali for the biggest V8.

 

It also depends on where you live. In our Texas office, the native Texans like giant trucks and big SUV'S, but in the Bay area they like Model Y's, Rav4's, and Lexus hybrids. Sienna and Odyssey's are the family trip cars. Here it's the blue collar workers that drive the bigger trucks. In SoCal, the more east you go like Riverside and San Bernardino counties, the bigger the trucks and SUVs.

Anyway I've said this before, I hope V8's continue to live on. As far as Mercedes is concerned, if the demand is there and they are profitable, Mercedes and others will continue to sell them

 

Why can’t we have it all - Hybrids, V8s, EVs, V12s etc.

Its just so silly - like saying you can eat vegetables but not ice cream, drink water but not beer, eat fish but no burgers.

Always better for free market to decide!

 

I totally agree with you @RNM GS3 . Market should decide. Californians are pretty much deciding. I don't have the exact numbers but the three top selling cars by rank are:

1) Tesla Model Y
2) Tesla Model 3
3) Toyota RAV4

For the RAV4, I don't know the breakdown between Hybrid and non-hybrids, but my guess is these are mostly hybrids because of the higher cost of gas here, and better power/performance from the hybrid drivetrain.

Will this trend reverse? I have no idea. If it does, than I'm fine with it, as long as I don't have to go back to a 4 cylinder. No freaking way

 

Yeah because they would buy an M5 instead and you would have bought an X and S if you could.

 

You never even owned one lol! You have only ever had mid tier cars and mid size engines so you wouldn't understand where people who have owned them are coming from. Most people don't have them and don't know what they are missing.

Both my friends thought 4 cyl was all they would ever need, until they tried a 6, and then that was enough until they had 8s. Now both want 12s

 

Dude I've driven more cars than you. I'm way, way older than you and for sure have more experience than you, although because you repair cars you know mechanical repairs better than I do. I'll just leave it at that.

Believe it or not, 99 percent of people don't care. Really, even if they drove a V8, a TT V6 etc. They don't care. Not everyone is an enthusiast, care about 0 to 60 or quarter mile times. I promise you. Put my wife in a Plaid, and after driving it fast, she won't care one bit and would happily go back to her 138 HP Ioniq EV

 

That logic makes so much sense 😅. Seriously, what are you trying to prove? I'm really confused here lol. Did I accidentally press some button that set you off? If I did I'm sorry man

 

tesla also lost a fortune in the early years until they figured out how to make economically at huge scale.

ford is retooling a plant for much larger volume and assumed lower build cost.

 

Amen, preach it brother!

Let the market decide.
I have no problem with that!

 

......and what will they want next LOL? Some people are apparantly never satisfied.

 

i agree, but govts do not, and companies don't have unlimited r&d budgets.