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Old Jan 30, 2025 | 04:09 PM
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@SW17LS did you ever find out how many Tesla shares you own? Just curious.
132 shares
Old Jan 30, 2025 | 04:29 PM
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That's about $50,000 USD this will grow to $500.000+ IMO maybe you'll hate Elon slightly less then.
Old Jan 30, 2025 | 04:34 PM
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I would be very surprised, but we shall see.
Old Jan 30, 2025 | 05:08 PM
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That's about $50,000 USD this will grow to $500.000+ IMO maybe you'll hate Elon slightly less then.
I can do better than that. Bought 300 shares in 2020 for around $80 a share. After the three way split I ended up with 900 shares. Sold them (all 900) last year for $360. Bought back 600 shares at $299. The rest of the money I made I put it in some other stocks like Nvidia. Again sold about 60 shares for $350, plan was to wait for TSLA to drop again below $299, never happened, so I put it in Nvidia at $130 a share. So I'm sitting on 540 shares which I am not touching unless Tesla hits $500. The big issue now is capital gains on what I sold last year....
Old Jan 30, 2025 | 05:21 PM
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I think Pat's Tesla def qualifies (or qualified) as a lemon, but he seems to love it. As far as the Tesla Service Center in his area, no excuses, they need to up their game. One of the reasons I decided not to buy out my Polestar was poor service centers
It’s a lemon for sure but wouldn’t qualify as a lemon under the law. Here’s the rest of my day. After sitting for 6 hours they tell me they need to keep my car and just like last time, magically a Model Y loaner is available, imagine that. Then I get home and the bill to fix the sensor and the passenger restraint fault came to around $1,500. $850 of that was related to the same fault I was getting that was fixed less than a year ago which would have been covered since it hadn’t been a year but now they said it’s a different module that is messed up and it’s not the same issue so I have to pay, awesome.

I went to see if I could trade it in on a new Plaid but the value of my car was around $35k so that ain’t happening.

Also test drove a Cybertruck while I was waiting. Pretty cool truck but I wouldn’t buy one.
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How did you go from 300 shares to 900 after the split? That's $324,000.
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It’s a lemon for sure but wouldn’t qualify as a lemon under the law. Here’s the rest of my day. After sitting for 6 hours they tell me they need to keep my car and just like last time, magically a Model Y loaner is available, imagine that. Then I get home and the bill to fix the sensor and the passenger restraint fault came to around $1,500. $850 of that was related to the same fault I was getting that was fixed less than a year ago which would have been covered since it hadn’t been a year but now they said it’s a different module that is messed up and it’s not the same issue so I have to pay, awesome.

I went to see if I could trade it in on a new Plaid but the value of my car was around $35k so that ain’t happening.

Also test drove a Cybertruck while I was waiting. Pretty cool truck but I wouldn’t buy one.
Are you serious? $35k? I'm betting if you sold it privately you would get closer to $60k. I'm looking at 2021 and 2022 in my area and they are running $52k to almost $60k
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
How did you go from 300 shares to 900 after the split? That's $324,000.
They split three ways. The day of the split they went from 1x share that was $900 to 3x shares worth $300 each share

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Originally Posted by LeX2K
How did you go from 300 shares to 900 after the split? That's $324,000.
Here:

https://ir.tesla.com/press-release/t...ne-stock-split
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You're right of course I've been pouring over CSS for too long today.
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You're right of course I've been pouring over CSS for too long today.
I forgive you 🤣
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I shorted TSLA at $450 and exited that position at $398.
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I shorted TSLA at $450 and exited that position at $398.
I'm guessing that's good by your smiley emoji. I don't know much about shorts
Old Jan 30, 2025 | 07:23 PM
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I asked Grok then didn't care about the answer lol

Shorting a stock can be considered one of the more dangerous forms of investing due to several unique risks:

Unlimited Loss Potential: When you short a stock, you borrow shares to sell them with the hope of buying them back later at a lower price. If the stock price rises instead, your losses can theoretically be unlimited since there's no cap on how high a stock price can go.
Margin Calls: Short selling usually requires borrowing money or securities, which means you'll have to meet margin requirements. If the stock price rises, you might get a margin call, requiring you to deposit more funds or sell other assets to cover the shortfall.
Short Squeeze: This occurs when a stock's price begins to rise, and short sellers rush to cover their positions (buying back the stock to return the borrowed shares), which can drive the price even higher. This can lead to significant losses for those still short on the stock.
Dividends and Stock Splits: If you're short a stock that pays dividends, you must pay those dividends to the person or entity from whom you borrowed the shares. Also, stock splits or other corporate actions can complicate the position.
Time: Holding a short position requires patience. Unlike buying stocks where time can work in your favor (through dividends or general market growth), with short selling, time can erode your potential profit if the stock doesn't depreciate.
Market Dynamics: Stocks can become overvalued or subject to market irrationality or manipulation, making it harder to predict price drops accurately.


However, while short selling has these inherent dangers, it's not necessarily the "most" dangerous form of investing for everyone:

Options Trading: Particularly selling options like naked puts or calls, can also lead to unlimited losses, similar to short selling.
Leveraged Investments: Using leverage in any form of investment, including forex or futures, can amplify losses just as easily as gains.
Penny Stocks: Investing in very small, volatile companies can be extremely risky due to their lack of liquidity, high volatility, and susceptibility to manipulation.


In conclusion, shorting stocks carries significant risks, particularly due to the potential for unlimited losses, but whether it's the "most dangerous" form of investing depends on individual circumstances, risk tolerance, and market conditions. It requires a deep understanding of the market, thorough research, and often a contrarian view against the market consensus. For many investors, the risks associated with other high-leverage or speculative investments might be equally or more daunting. Always consider your own risk profile and investment strategy when evaluating which forms of investing might be most dangerous for you personally.
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shorting is for pessimists.



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