How to get your doors to have a vault feel when they close
#1
Driver School Candidate
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How to get your doors to have a vault feel when they close
I just got a 2007 Lexus LS 460 and the doors seem to slam shut like a 30 year old Corolla with the windows down. What can we do to get back that new feel when we close our doors?
#2
Pole Position
Do You have power trunk lid ?
If you have a power trunk then you have power door closers. Both were part of the same option.
Then pull the door close to the vehicle and it will close the last inches by an electric motor..no slamming
If you have a power trunk then you have power door closers. Both were part of the same option.
Then pull the door close to the vehicle and it will close the last inches by an electric motor..no slamming
Last edited by Arvid; 08-29-17 at 04:17 AM.
#3
Lead Lap
As for a solution, Dynamat or the like well might do the trick and give you perhaps better sound/road isolation.
#4
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (2)
Door seals and stops are rubber and they age allowing more compression. If they have lost their pliability that would be a start. Make sure the bump stops are present. Also if alignment is off the sound and feeling will be too.
Adjust door to fit all gaps and lines with striker removed. Then adjust striker so the door closes flush panel wise and is neither lifted up or pulled down during latching with the striker.
Adjust door to fit all gaps and lines with striker removed. Then adjust striker so the door closes flush panel wise and is neither lifted up or pulled down during latching with the striker.
#5
Lexus Fanatic
I would use the shin etsu grease I just posted about on the forum for all the door seals to start.
My doors feel fine
My doors feel fine
#6
Lexus Fanatic
My doors shut quietly and solidly. Guess I'm lucky. I get a lot of comments from passengers on how quiet they are. They seal shut with very little effort. Regardless, I wanna try some of that grease Steve talks about. I've used Ford Motorcraft Silicone door seal lube with success, which comes in a spray can.
#7
Lexus Fanatic
Yeah spray silicone doesn't work well...
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#9
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Yes, I have the soft close doors and use them regularly, but they will still feel like they slam if I'm parked at an angle. Mom, sisters, nieces don't understand that the door doesn't need to be slammed like a misaligned steel door from the 60's. I was thinking that maybe the rubber seals over the years have weakened the seal. Its just all the doors seem to slam hard like the windows are rolled down. My work car is a 2017 Subaru Forester and they have way more of a solid feel. I'll look into the door stoppers and replacing the seals and trying that grease, too. Thanks everyone!
#10
Roll the windows up would be my suggestion.
Seriously though, on a Lexus(or other well built car) the cabin is sealed pretty damn tight from the factory. Thus when you close a door(with the windows up, sunroof closed, all other doors closed) you are pushing into an air cushion on the inside of the cabin that has nowhere to go. Thus it can seem like the door closes a lot more solidly, because all that air you are pushing in has nowhere to escape.
I know on my 1992 SC300, if you close one of those HUGE doors with the windows up, sunroof closed, it takes a good heave, a lot more than a normal car to get it to close. If you have a window down or the sunroof open, you can close the door with a lot less effort. Same thing with my old 1999 Z28 Camaro and its hatchback door. Have all the windows up, t-tops in, doors closed, you had to slam the **** out of the hatch/trunk lid to get it to close. If you had a window down, door open, or t-tops off, you could close it with 1 or 2 fingers.
Seriously though, on a Lexus(or other well built car) the cabin is sealed pretty damn tight from the factory. Thus when you close a door(with the windows up, sunroof closed, all other doors closed) you are pushing into an air cushion on the inside of the cabin that has nowhere to go. Thus it can seem like the door closes a lot more solidly, because all that air you are pushing in has nowhere to escape.
I know on my 1992 SC300, if you close one of those HUGE doors with the windows up, sunroof closed, it takes a good heave, a lot more than a normal car to get it to close. If you have a window down or the sunroof open, you can close the door with a lot less effort. Same thing with my old 1999 Z28 Camaro and its hatchback door. Have all the windows up, t-tops in, doors closed, you had to slam the **** out of the hatch/trunk lid to get it to close. If you had a window down, door open, or t-tops off, you could close it with 1 or 2 fingers.
#12
Do the inner window wiper adjustment procedure mentioned a few weeks ago. Over time clearance develops that increases road noise - and that clearance can also cause the windows to rattle when the doors are closed with the windows down.
#14
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Roll the windows up would be my suggestion.
Seriously though, on a Lexus(or other well built car) the cabin is sealed pretty damn tight from the factory. Thus when you close a door(with the windows up, sunroof closed, all other doors closed) you are pushing into an air cushion on the inside of the cabin that has nowhere to go. Thus it can seem like the door closes a lot more solidly, because all that air you are pushing in has nowhere to escape.
I know on my 1992 SC300, if you close one of those HUGE doors with the windows up, sunroof closed, it takes a good heave, a lot more than a normal car to get it to close. If you have a window down or the sunroof open, you can close the door with a lot less effort. Same thing with my old 1999 Z28 Camaro and its hatchback door. Have all the windows up, t-tops in, doors closed, you had to slam the **** out of the hatch/trunk lid to get it to close. If you had a window down, door open, or t-tops off, you could close it with 1 or 2 fingers.
Seriously though, on a Lexus(or other well built car) the cabin is sealed pretty damn tight from the factory. Thus when you close a door(with the windows up, sunroof closed, all other doors closed) you are pushing into an air cushion on the inside of the cabin that has nowhere to go. Thus it can seem like the door closes a lot more solidly, because all that air you are pushing in has nowhere to escape.
I know on my 1992 SC300, if you close one of those HUGE doors with the windows up, sunroof closed, it takes a good heave, a lot more than a normal car to get it to close. If you have a window down or the sunroof open, you can close the door with a lot less effort. Same thing with my old 1999 Z28 Camaro and its hatchback door. Have all the windows up, t-tops in, doors closed, you had to slam the **** out of the hatch/trunk lid to get it to close. If you had a window down, door open, or t-tops off, you could close it with 1 or 2 fingers.
This is with the windows, sunroof, trunk all completely shut, but all my doors still will slam hard. Its like the air is escaping from somewhere.
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