CJITTY's Build Thread II
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Lead Lap
Joined: Jul 2010
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From: The South
Ok folks, I need to make a decision on what to do for wheels. I have a set of 22" staggered wheels from my previous LS460. But, here are some points and issues I have with the wheel situation.
1. Previous LS460 was RWD, and I have 22x9 fronts (245/30/22) and 22x10.5 rears (295/25/22)
2. 600 is all wheel drive with a 40/60 power split. Staggered on AWD has always been a topic of discussion.
3. LS600 is about 600 lbs heavier than a 460. My 245/30 fronts have a 92 XL load rating, which is actually too low for a 460..but the 245/30 and 295/25 is an exact overall diameter combo match. This diameter matchup is good for an AWD system, but once the diameters are matched up, you still have to worry about additional rear wheel weight and rolling resistance.
4. I would try to go 265/30/22 all around because I know a couple of members have installed 265s up front and one member for sure that has installed 265/30 on a 10.5" wheel with no issues and it doesn't look very stretched. Those have a 97 XL load rating and would technically work, but I'm not sure the 265/30 will clear the control arm components on the AWD LS's.
5. Do I go 22x9 all around and would it look ok with data systems drop? I love my CV1 wheels and I think they would look great on this car, but I am mostly concerned about the AWD system unless there are some tolerances with the center diff and transmission ecu to handle staggered.
Does ANYONE here on CL have an AWD 460 or a 600 running a staggered setup? There is simply no information on this unless I go by the IS or GS folks, but not sure the LS system is the same as those.
Decisions
1. Previous LS460 was RWD, and I have 22x9 fronts (245/30/22) and 22x10.5 rears (295/25/22)
2. 600 is all wheel drive with a 40/60 power split. Staggered on AWD has always been a topic of discussion.
3. LS600 is about 600 lbs heavier than a 460. My 245/30 fronts have a 92 XL load rating, which is actually too low for a 460..but the 245/30 and 295/25 is an exact overall diameter combo match. This diameter matchup is good for an AWD system, but once the diameters are matched up, you still have to worry about additional rear wheel weight and rolling resistance.
4. I would try to go 265/30/22 all around because I know a couple of members have installed 265s up front and one member for sure that has installed 265/30 on a 10.5" wheel with no issues and it doesn't look very stretched. Those have a 97 XL load rating and would technically work, but I'm not sure the 265/30 will clear the control arm components on the AWD LS's.
5. Do I go 22x9 all around and would it look ok with data systems drop? I love my CV1 wheels and I think they would look great on this car, but I am mostly concerned about the AWD system unless there are some tolerances with the center diff and transmission ecu to handle staggered.
Does ANYONE here on CL have an AWD 460 or a 600 running a staggered setup? There is simply no information on this unless I go by the IS or GS folks, but not sure the LS system is the same as those.
Decisions
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Ok folks, I need to make a decision on what to do for wheels. I have a set of 22" staggered wheels from my previous LS460. But, here are some points and issues I have with the wheel situation.
1. Previous LS460 was RWD, and I have 22x9 fronts (245/30/22) and 22x10.5 rears (295/25/22)
2. 600 is all wheel drive with a 40/60 power split. Staggered on AWD has always been a topic of discussion.
3. LS600 is about 600 lbs heavier than a 460. My 245/30 fronts have a 92 XL load rating, which is actually too low for a 460..but the 245/30 and 295/25 is an exact overall diameter combo match. This diameter matchup is good for an AWD system, but once the diameters are matched up, you still have to worry about additional rear wheel weight and rolling resistance.
4. I would try to go 265/30/22 all around because I know a couple of members have installed 265s up front and one member for sure that has installed 265/30 on a 10.5" wheel with no issues and it doesn't look very stretched. Those have a 97 XL load rating and would technically work, but I'm not sure the 265/30 will clear the control arm components on the AWD LS's.
5. Do I go 22x9 all around and would it look ok with data systems drop? I love my CV1 wheels and I think they would look great on this car, but I am mostly concerned about the AWD system unless there are some tolerances with the center diff and transmission ecu to handle staggered.
Does ANYONE here on CL have an AWD 460 or a 600 running a staggered setup? There is simply no information on this unless I go by the IS or GS folks, but not sure the LS system is the same as those.
Decisions
1. Previous LS460 was RWD, and I have 22x9 fronts (245/30/22) and 22x10.5 rears (295/25/22)
2. 600 is all wheel drive with a 40/60 power split. Staggered on AWD has always been a topic of discussion.
3. LS600 is about 600 lbs heavier than a 460. My 245/30 fronts have a 92 XL load rating, which is actually too low for a 460..but the 245/30 and 295/25 is an exact overall diameter combo match. This diameter matchup is good for an AWD system, but once the diameters are matched up, you still have to worry about additional rear wheel weight and rolling resistance.
4. I would try to go 265/30/22 all around because I know a couple of members have installed 265s up front and one member for sure that has installed 265/30 on a 10.5" wheel with no issues and it doesn't look very stretched. Those have a 97 XL load rating and would technically work, but I'm not sure the 265/30 will clear the control arm components on the AWD LS's.
5. Do I go 22x9 all around and would it look ok with data systems drop? I love my CV1 wheels and I think they would look great on this car, but I am mostly concerned about the AWD system unless there are some tolerances with the center diff and transmission ecu to handle staggered.
Does ANYONE here on CL have an AWD 460 or a 600 running a staggered setup? There is simply no information on this unless I go by the IS or GS folks, but not sure the LS system is the same as those.
Decisions
22x9 all the way around
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/7294913-post26.html
22x9 and 22x10.5
Not sure of sizes but all 600h L
Thread Starter
Lead Lap
Joined: Jul 2010
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From: The South
Thanks Mike. I know it is physically possible to do it, but the load rating index of the 600 is 98, so I need to find the right tire sizes to make this work and keep the overall rolling diameters nearly identical while getting close to load rating...I just have not heard any feedback from people running a staggered setup on an AWD LS model...the IS and GS folks seem to be operating just fine, but it would be nice to have assurance from the LS community, I really love the look of my CV1s
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Joined: Mar 2011
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From: GA
I SEE YOU,,, I SEE YOU. DAMN!!!! CONGRATZ MR. JITTY. that **** is "HOT". can i call you MR. JITTY, or would you prefer YOUR HIGHNESS??? you got what you wanted,, i'm happy for you. i'm happy and it's not even my car. well i'm on board let the modding begin.
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Becareful with the AWD and staggered wheels. I had a good friend in the 3GS forum back in the day who had so much vibration that he sold the car . Damn bro, 600 with AWD. Thats the most expensive Lexus other than the LFA. I am so happy for you. Just be careful with the tire diameters
do you think 255/30 would be better considering the weight?? Don't do 265/30. It looks like ****. Total off road look.
do you think 255/30 would be better considering the weight?? Don't do 265/30. It looks like ****. Total off road look.
