The piece of molding (about 4 nches long) is located just below the edge of the windhield wiper arm on the lower, right side of the windshiled. There is also one of these pieces on the lower left side as well, but that was in place correctly. As far as the window seal is concerned it is just that, the window seal (rubber). It was replaced because the one they had already installed many months ago was not installed properly because it had some small protruding gaps. To make a long story short, these chain of events have solved my "minor" wind noise problem appearing to come from the top of the driver's side window.

 

Well I finally had time to do the repair myself, I had the dealer do Jeff's repair than, about a year ago........I must say WOW the car is now quieter. It started a year ago when I had a almost whistle at 39mph. I had the dealer do Jeff's fix than and it was 100% eliminated.....Now, after the noise canceling high tech plate the car is quiet especially when when other cars pass by..like I thought it would be when I first bought the car.

Taking cover off, just pops off.


This is what I found when I took off the cover. The dealer had performed the repair per Jeff's procedure. This was done by the tech field rep and a little fellow from Japan I was not allowed to talk to.


You should use a wooden paint stick, you can scratch this very easily. I have gasket scrapers I'm very used to and removed most of the old silicone, just enough to keep the surface flat.


You can use what ever floats your boat, I like the Permatex RTV silicone. I've stuck more things on my motorcycle with just using this. Most custom bike builders use silicone to stick on accessories.


Ready to go, have to make sure you fill the holes with silicone and run a nice bead.


Clean the silicone off the unwanted areas right away with something that cuts through adhesives. Install custom road noise/wind noise canceling plate


Break the ears or tabs off the plastic POS trim plate Lexus supplied.


Yet more silicone= quite Lexus 460


All done


After working on this you can clearly see like 3 different surfaces coming together at different angles. I'm gonna guess the design guys got their way and the poor engineer did his best to make it come together but fell way short.

I can now say this is the quietest car I've ever owned......

THANKS JEFF, You personally saved Lexus another by back

 

Great write-up Gary, and priceless comment I might add...

 

Hello all. I have not visited these forums for quite a few months. I am extremely pleased to see great progress on this wind noise issue.

It's the type of people in this topic that provide the legs to Lexus's "pursuit of perfection" mantra

 

Thx!

But I still can't believe I have to do this on a $70k car.

 

After waiting almost a year, finally My service manager told me that lexus has designed the new molding to fix the windnoise.

I came to the dealer last week and I talked to my service manager at Sewell Lexus, and he said they have the new molding from lexus for the windnoise. I didn't have time at that visit that why I don't know it fix the problem or not. But, he told me that some costumers said it fix the problem and some said it's not at all.

Anyone have this fix by the dealer yet?

 

I had the molding replaced and also the rubber seal on the front windows. Of the two fixes, replacing the rubber seal was the one that eliminated the whispering/swishing wind noise from the driver's side window. The jmcraney triangle fix made the car overall quieter (less road noise and noise from nearby vehicles while driving). I'm sure that some folks that had a more serious wind noise problem than on mine also saw a wind noise reduction as well with the jmcraney fix.

 

I have to say that ignorance was bliss, I have lurked on this forum once in a while but never posted. After reading the full 38 pages last week I thought 'what the heck lets try something' and I noticed that letting the drivers side window down just a fraction reduces the 'open window type noise' pretty significantly. I know this has been somewhere in these pages before but can anyone remind me, does this correlate to the triangular molding issue or not.

I don't seem to hear much noise around the mirror, the 'open window type noise' seems to originate from the top of the door although in general it can be said that the car is not quite wind quit. I also noticed that the whole door structure severely distorts between the window hard up and a fraction down position and I was wondering if that has anything to do with with the wind noise as well.

It is not that am not capable of doing the molding fix, if that would solve the issue, I just have a philosophical problem in taking a caulking gun to a $85k car but then again the dealer can do it (I hope).

In general I feel regret of trading my LS430 with sports suspension in for this 460L, the only things improved are the transmission lurch and the bluetooth adapter. The seats suck (for me at least), the ergonomics are worse, the nav has no override without spending more money and I am not happy with the breaks, despite the touring package.

 

Note this tread is the LS460 Wind Noise Fix (continued discussion), a continuation of the original and very lengthy LS460 Wind Noise Fix thread. That thread discussed the window tap-down phenomena. This idiosyncrasy is a band-aid, and not a solution. It results from excessive window travel in the guides that expands the door frame and magnifies the triangle fix noise.

 

My apologies for posting in the wrong thread but I actually cannot find the original one. I am still experimenting to find all the causes of my noise because the trim only seems to cause a part of it.

 

No need to apologize. The original thread became quite lengthy and, as many of the issues contained within it were resolved over time, the moderator locked it down and started this continuation to save members (and lurkers) from having to leaf through 863 postings. A link to the older discussion is posted at the beginning of this thread; however for your convenience, I am including it in this post.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls4...d-threads.html

Good luck, and welcome to Club Lexus!

 

Is the wind noise still a problem in the later models? For example the 2009 ME cars.

Do you think that Lexus will be addressing and correcting this with the upcoming, upgraded 2010 LS460?

 

I purchased a used 2007 LS 460 earlier this year. Aparently I found out later however that the car had been in an accident and that the front bumper was replaced but not a factory part. Regardless around January of this year I took the car into my dealership about the wind noise. I don't have the work order with me but they said they added some foam (most liley per the TSB). After they did all that the wind noise was still there so I just assumed nothing could be done.

After looking through these forums I noticed that there seems to be another TSB that includes replacing the driver side glass to a laminate glass? So I took my car into a different dealership this time and their response to me was that because the car had been in an accident and because the front bumper was replaced not with lexus they wouldn't perform the work to fix the wind noise. Now I'm assuming fixing the wind noise takes a lot of their time and money which is why he is not willing to do the fix, but is that right? Are they allowed to deny me the fix from the TSB based on the car having been in an accident involving the front bumper?

My wife took the car in so she wasn't able to argue with him about the point. From what I know there was no structural damage to the body from the accident so how can he argue that a window problem is caused from the bumper? Especially when this wind noise is an issue on countless number of cars?

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

"My wife took the car in so she wasn't able to argue with him about the point. From what I know there was no structural damage to the body from the accident so how can he argue that a window problem is caused from the bumper? Especially when this wind noise is an issue on countless number of cars?"

The answer is simple. He CANNOT argue that the wind noise problem is caused by the bumper. He is BS'ng you. Call Headquarters!

 

Several things come to mind about what you should consider.

One of the first things: When you bought the car was the title "branded" or "salvage" or "manufacturer buyback" or "Lemon Law?" All these title notations void the warranty. In some cases the dealer service people are not upfront about such things unless you ask the right questions.

The window replacement in both front doors is a warranty item for all 2007 LS460 (SWB) US models. If you will share your VIN with me in a private message I will be able to tell you if the window replacement applies to your car. Dealers like to do this sort of work as all the cost is borne by Lexus. This only applies to the 07 LS460 (SWB) models and not to the LWB models. Dealers were soliciting this business not too long ago, so it is possible that your car has already had this done. You can check for yourself by looking here:

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/4137877-post443.html

As far as I know there is not a single unequivocal report of wind noise improvement from replacement of the front door glass with Lamisafe glass even though Lexus did that to many-many-many cars. There are numerous anecdotal reports in this thread and other discussions that there was no improvement after glass replacement. I had my car done and I couldn't detect any improvement.

There have been numerous reports of failed dealer attempts to repair the wind noise in 07 and 08 LS models. There have been a very-very few reports of unequivocal dealer repair success and no one is ever able to supply any details about how the repair was done, such as parts (sort of black magic). I think in these cases the dealers don't even know how they fixed the problem.

There have been numerous reports of wind noise fix repair successes using a DIY fix that has been discussed ad nauseam in this thread. I think most of the followers of this discussion have heard all they want to hear from me on this subject.

I suggest that you read this discussion from the beginning and you will likely find a solution for your wind noise problem. If I can help you privately please don't hesitate to contact me through the private message feature on this site.