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Old 06-29-14, 06:07 AM
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Default Front strut dust boots and CPO

Hi was doing front brakes last week and my front dust boots are torn! Would the rubber boots dust cover be covered under CPO? Car has 97k suspension seems fine. Thanks
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Yes, it should be covered.
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I dropped the car by dealership and asked service adviser he said "NO" it's wear n tear and I was on my way.
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its only covered IF the strut is blown too. gives them a reason to replace it all. Dust boots are cheap but a pain in the *** to replace since it requires disassembling the strut assembly. Ive had a few cars that when they were torn i just left them because they dont really impact the performance of the shock if in good condition. It just helps for those offroad moments to not get dirt and grime all over the inner shock assembly. If your really patient, you can probably just sit under the wheel of the car and glue it back together and call it a day.
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Originally Posted by NYKnick101
its only covered IF the strut is blown too. gives them a reason to replace it all. Dust boots are cheap but a pain in the *** to replace since it requires disassembling the strut assembly. Ive had a few cars that when they were torn i just left them because they dont really impact the performance of the shock if in good condition. It just helps for those offroad moments to not get dirt and grime all over the inner shock assembly. If your really patient, you can probably just sit under the wheel of the car and glue it back together and call it a day.
Yea strut is good thanks for that. Now the glue what kind of glue did you use for it? If you did. Would you be able to reach in between the springs and what not kind of tight in there no?
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Give Lexus Corp a call and see if they can help you.
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Look Here:

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sus...need-help.html

And BTW, they are not struts, they are shock absorbers.

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Originally Posted by lowrideraz
Look Here:

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sus...need-help.html

And BTW, they are not struts, they are shock absorbers.

Lou
The IS X50's use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacPherson_strutstyle suspension so technically it is a STRUT assembly (although a shock absorber is apart of the assembly) The car would be immobile with out the struts. Cars that use SHOCK ABSORBERS can technically still drive with out shocks since the spring is not apart of the shock assembly


Also to ANT, best bet is to remove the strut assembly and gauge the damage of the dust boot from there. Its not hard at all if you get a Suspension removal DIY. But if you have the whole assembly out you might as well replace the boot with a new one. NOT having/ broken boots will still allow you to drive the car problem free so its not a HUGE essential part like the axle boots. There is no lubricant inside the boot, just air so you have some time. I just wouldn't drive winter NY winter weather with out a boot with salt and what not so you have time. PM me if you need more help. Im in NY as well and can probably help you with the issue
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Originally Posted by NYKnick101
The IS X50's use MacPhearson style suspension so technically it is a STRUT assembly (although a shock absorber is apart of the assembly) The car would be immobile with out the struts. Cars that use SHOCK ABSORBERS can technically still drive with out shocks since the spring is not apart of the shock assembly
No they don't, and No it wouldn't be immobile without shocks. It would be pretty bouncy, but not immobile.

SUSPENSION (FRONT)
Independent, double-wishbone, coil springs, gas-pressurized shock absorbers and stabilizer bar

SUSPENSION (REAR)
Independent, multilink with coil springs, gas-pressurized shock absorbers and stabilizer bar

Lou

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For now I will let it be seems like not worth it to take it all apart just to replace rubber boot.
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I don't see any way that the suspension wouldn't collapse if I removed the strut from either the front or rear of my IS350. To me that makes it "an integral part of the suspension".

This from shockwarehouse.com
, who I admit, are not the final authority.

A Strut. Note the spring perch that holds the vehicle's coil spring, making the strut an integral part of the vehicle's suspension.
I know when I see the spring wrapped around, I think "strut".
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Originally Posted by scott1256c
I don't see any way that the suspension wouldn't collapse if I removed the strut from either the front or rear of my IS350. To me that makes it "an integral part of the suspension".

This from shockwarehouse.com
, who I admit, are not the final authority.



I know when I see the spring wrapped around, I think "strut".
Yeah, speaking technically, A strut IS a type of shock absorber, built the same internally and has the same function keeping the stability of the car by dampening and also utilized a spring in its suspension design but by design; a shock absorber is NOT a strut. There is always confusion on what is a strut and a shock since they perform the same job just in a different way. To me, the IS uses a Strut design but its all just semantics after that

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ok, I'll change my vote!
Found this which indicates that you can tell the difference by the lower end of the strut or shock. That would make ours shocks, not struts.
Of particular note is this
Putting a spring on a shock does NOT make it a strut
But I also kind of agree that it is a semantic issue. Does anyone really get confused if they look at your coilover and refer to it as a strut?
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Originally Posted by scott1256c
But I also kind of agree that it is a semantic issue.
No it's not. They are very different. Double Wishbone is more complicated. I've had and worked on both.

http://mechanicalmania.blogspot.com/...on-double.html

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