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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 03:52 PM
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Got a free test from a local shop using HawkEye Elite and they told me I need a camber kit front and rear. I have a one finger gap all around and was told to raise it up some. Is the camber kit all I need? Or are toe links mandatory as well? Please shed some light asap, as my new tires are wearing out fairly quickly


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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 06:10 PM
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You won't run through tires that fast at all with -2.3 camber. Get some toe links though to get that toe to 0, because that's what eats out your tires the fastest.

I just bought some Battle Version rear toe links. You can go with them or FIGS.

http://shopfigs.com/v1/index.php?rou...tegory&path=46

http://battleversion.com/store/gs-97-05/
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LuxuryGS3
You won't run through tires that fast at all with -2.3 camber. Get some toe links though to get that toe to 0, because that's what eats out your tires the fastest.

I just bought some Battle Version rear toe links. You can go with them or FIGS.

http://shopfigs.com/v1/index.php?rou...tegory&path=46

http://battleversion.com/store/gs-97-05/
There are some listed in the classifieds as well, but wondering if they make any for the front. My front toe seems out of wack. All I could find for the front are spc camber kit, but it's actually a UCA.
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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 10:03 AM
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I am going to assume these readings are right after you just lowered it.

the front toe will go in to spec there is more than enough adjustment on Tie rods, in the rear it should also come in to spec there is absolutely no need for suspension replacements it's a waste of money. get your toe fixed as soon as possible your front tires won't last six months with those readings, that is the main cause of wear you are seeing now.

given camber will not wear out your tires in a matter of months however you're going to see a noticeable reduction in overall life, i don't think it's worth messing with.

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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by acuratechv
I am going to assume these readings are right after you just lowered it.

the front toe will go in to spec there is more than enough adjustment on Tie rods, in the rear it should also come in to spec there is absolutely no need for suspension replacements it's a waste of money. get your toe fixed as soon as possible your front tires won't last six months with those readings, that is the main cause of wear you are seeing now.

given camber will not wear out your tires in a matter of months however you're going to see a noticeable reduction in overall life, i don't think it's worth messing with.
Adjustable rear suspension is not a waste of money. I got my GS with 136k miles and the rear toe links bushings were shot and I could not get my toe anywhere near in spec and ordered some adjustable ones. This was when I was at STOCK height and spec was not reachable. For $175 i'll gladly pay for a set of adjustable rear links. That's cheap and better than having worn OEM bushings for the rear.

For the front i've never seen someones toe so out of wack. When was the last time that you replaced your outer/inner tie rods? May want to look into that if they're not able to get you back into spec right now or try another Alignment place.
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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LuxuryGS3
Adjustable rear suspension is not a waste of money. I got my GS with 136k miles and the rear toe links bushings were shot and I could not get my toe anywhere near in spec and ordered some adjustable ones. This was when I was at STOCK height and spec was not reachable. For $175 i'll gladly pay for a set of adjustable rear links. That's cheap and better than having worn OEM bushings for the rear.

For the front i've never seen someones toe so out of wack. When was the last time that you replaced your outer/inner tie rods? May want to look into that if they're not able to get you back into spec right now or try another Alignment place.
Outer tie rod ends and lbj were replaced by moog last month. So adjusting the outer tie rods will fix my front toe ... why couldn't the damn shop tell me that.. all they told me was to raise the car with a two finger gap and buy front and rear camber kits



Originally Posted by acuratechv
I am going to assume these readings are right after you just lowered it.

the front toe will go in to spec there is more than enough adjustment on Tie rods, in the rear it should also come in to spec there is absolutely no need for suspension replacements it's a waste of money. get your toe fixed as soon as possible your front tires won't last six months with those readings, that is the main cause of wear you are seeing now.

given camber will not wear out your tires in a matter of months however you're going to see a noticeable reduction in overall life, i don't think it's worth messing with.
Yessir, dropped it to one finger gap all around.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by LuxuryGS3
Adjustable rear suspension is not a waste of money. I got my GS with 136k miles and the rear toe links bushings were shot and I could not get my toe anywhere near in spec and ordered some adjustable ones. This was when I was at STOCK height and spec was not reachable. For $175 i'll gladly pay for a set of adjustable rear links. That's cheap and better than having worn OEM bushings for the rear.

For the front i've never seen someones toe so out of wack. When was the last time that you replaced your outer/inner tie rods? May want to look into that if they're not able to get you back into spec right now or try another Alignment place.

We may be arguing different things, if YOU couldnt get yours in spec while having worn out suspsension is a different scenario. not to mention I don't know the details about your problem.

from what was said You replaced your toe arms because they were worn out not because theyre out of adjustments. being out of adjustment is the effect of worn out suspension (unless you're slammed on coil overs and did need the extra room). so, installation of the adjustable toe arms was merely a precaution for you, perhaps to save a trip. You would've been fine just replacing your defective, and because of that I suspect it may have been an over kill

if all his suspension is intact then I still say replacing and upgrading is a waste. it's a luxury sedan for ****s sake not a track car.


His f toe out is normal and expected after being lowered, nothing to freak out about, but should be adjusted in a matter of days.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 08:16 AM
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and to add hey comment regarding adjustable toe arms. Majority of them are junk most of them use cheap Spherical joints (megan is a good example) which ive seen wear out in under a year.

if you can correct your specs with what is there or replacing with new fresh bushings/oem arms do so, and save yourself headache later

SPC has some great control arms with polyurethane bushings, none of that spherical junk , maybe look into that...
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