Brake TSIB for 2008 Owners Finally Released!
10-07-08, 11:49 AM
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This is great news! Dealer wouldn't take care of it a few months back, saying that only the '07 models were affected.
I'm gonna come in with the printed TSB and mush it in his face!
I'm gonna come in with the printed TSB and mush it in his face!
10-07-08, 12:03 PM
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Hey guys...I just scheduled appointment for tomorrow for my TSIB on my 08 IS250..will they say something about my aftermarket wheels I have and also is there any out of pocket cost
10-07-08, 01:17 PM
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I've been thinking about getting this done but I really like the feel of my brakes...so the new pads will have the same stopping distance just have a slightly different feel? the brake dust is pretty annoying though
10-07-08, 04:12 PM
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had mine done about 6000 miles ago... they are nice and clean now.. however the braking power SUCKS! compared to the dusty ones.. and I mean SUCKS... I push my car hard around curves and stuff and sometimes I feel like the car isn't gonna stop on time.... and this was with stocks... now im rolling on 20's ... Wish I kept the dusty ones... oh well its ok BBK around the corner 
10-07-08, 06:02 PM
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had mine done about 6000 miles ago... they are nice and clean now.. however the braking power SUCKS! compared to the dusty ones.. and I mean SUCKS... I push my car hard around curves and stuff and sometimes I feel like the car isn't gonna stop on time.... and this was with stocks... now im rolling on 20's ... Wish I kept the dusty ones... oh well its ok BBK around the corner
Does ABS engage? If so, then the "braking power" is the same as the stock pads.
10-07-08, 06:07 PM
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LOL... when I say they suck... I dont mean that they dont work! they work fine... when I had the TSIB done they did warn me that the breaking power was gonna be partially less then the old pads.... and yes the 20's are heavy... there one piece vossens! so technically I'm not supposed to drive the car hard like I used to with stocks.. cuz these wheels aren't meant for that..
10-07-08, 07:07 PM
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LOL... when I say they suck... I dont mean that they dont work! they work fine... when I had the TSIB done they did warn me that the breaking power was gonna be partially less then the old pads.... and yes the 20's are heavy... there one piece vossens! so technically I'm not supposed to drive the car hard like I used to with stocks.. cuz these wheels aren't meant for that..
The -feel- changes, the actual stopping power does not.
10-07-08, 07:09 PM
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I want to lay this out for everyone. What stops a vehicle?
Tires + Brakes + Engine
When a person enables ABS, this means the car is at a point where it cannot brake any better without locking the wheels. Almost every car on the road can enable ABS.
Your tires are the limiting factor. They are what connect you to the road. Put Hoosiers on your car and see if you stop better than adding a BBK.
Tires + Brakes + Engine
When a person enables ABS, this means the car is at a point where it cannot brake any better without locking the wheels. Almost every car on the road can enable ABS.
Your tires are the limiting factor. They are what connect you to the road. Put Hoosiers on your car and see if you stop better than adding a BBK.
10-07-08, 07:33 PM
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It's funny how no one ever mentions that the amount of force that's required to engage ABS changes (incrementally) whenever you change your brake pad to a less aggressive compound. In other words, your braking distance will not change because of the brake pad used, but ceteris paribus, you might have to push the brake pedal harder (however incremental that increase is) to engage ABS and achieve that braking distance. A more accurate equation of 'what stops a car' would be force + tires + brakes.
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10-08-08, 05:37 AM
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It's funny how no one ever mentions that the amount of force that's required to engage ABS changes (incrementally) whenever you change your brake pad to a less aggressive compound. In other words, your braking distance will not change because of the brake pad used, but ceteris paribus, you might have to push the brake pedal harder (however incremental that increase is) to engage ABS and achieve that braking distance. A more accurate equation of 'what stops a car' would be force + tires + brakes.
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By definition this is by applying maximum brake force.
Most folks, making a panic stop, will slam the brake pedal. In other words they will go well beyond the amount of force needed to engage ABS, regardless of which brake pad is on the car.
At which point they will achieve exactly the same stopping distance as they would have with any other brake pad.
10-08-08, 06:07 AM
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It's funny how no one ever mentions that the amount of force that's required to engage ABS changes (incrementally) whenever you change your brake pad to a less aggressive compound. In other words, your braking distance will not change because of the brake pad used, but ceteris paribus, you might have to push the brake pedal harder (however incremental that increase is) to engage ABS and achieve that braking distance. A more accurate equation of 'what stops a car' would be force + tires + brakes.
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ABS with Brake Assist
The Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) employs computerized control to help prevent the wheels from locking up or skidding during braking. For additional control, Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD) monitors and manages the force between the front and rear brakes to prevent the vehicle from diving. When the system detects an attempted emergency stop, Brake Assist [1] automatically boosts braking force when the driver does not apply enough pressure to the brake pedal.
The Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) employs computerized control to help prevent the wheels from locking up or skidding during braking. For additional control, Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD) monitors and manages the force between the front and rear brakes to prevent the vehicle from diving. When the system detects an attempted emergency stop, Brake Assist [1] automatically boosts braking force when the driver does not apply enough pressure to the brake pedal.
10-08-08, 06:11 AM
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I definitely recommend getting this done. I have an 08 and I'd clean my wheels and within a day it would be covered in brake dust again. This practically gets rid of the problem. You'll have very very minimal brake dust (just like normal cars).
10-08-08, 06:31 AM
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is anyone getting courtesy car with this??
ive dropped my car off at my dealership 5 times now, my schedule conflicts with lexus's open and closing time so I ALWAYS have to arrange something
ive dropped my car off at my dealership 5 times now, my schedule conflicts with lexus's open and closing time so I ALWAYS have to arrange something