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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i love the new shifter without crappy old school ******* leather boot.
Yes, we know you've never liked those leather boots....you've complained about them before. I agree that they can be difficult to clean down inside those pockets, but, if you're relatively careful inside the car, they don't really collect that much dirt to start with.
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Yes, we know you've never liked those leather boots....you've complained about them before. I agree that they can be difficult to clean down inside those pockets, but, if you're relatively careful inside the car, they don't really get that dirty to start with.
Don't you just hate people who complain about the same thing over and over?
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SW15LS
Don't you just hate people who complain about the same thing over and over?
Not really. I myself do it on occasion. Lack of body-side moldings, boring paint-colors, manual hood-props, lack of a real spare tire, etc... Yes, I've done it numerous times.

(......and, yes, E-Shifters LOL)
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Not really. I myself do it on occasion. Lack of body-side moldings, boring paint-colors, manual hood-props, lack of a real spare tire, etc... Yes, I've done it numerous times.

(......and, yes, E-Shifters LOL)
and people not knowing that the better quality buicks are opel derived.
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SW15LS
I'm coming around on the ******* shift boot lol. Cleaning it out is actually kind of gross!


Originally Posted by mmarshall
Yes, we know you've never liked those leather boots....you've complained about them before.
really?

I agree that they can be difficult to clean down inside those pockets, but, if you're relatively careful inside the car, they don't really collect that much dirt to start with.
maybe if one barely drives their car or never eats in it, etc. fortunately, the leather boot is going the way of the dodo. my last 3 vehicles (so since 2000 or 17 years!) have NOT had the leather boot (Lexus GS400, Ford Explorer, Jeep Grand Cherokee).
now for a stick, i understand having it (my acuras and miata had it), but for auto it's just sloppy and outdated. i know for '17 jeep went BACK to it and PRNDL on the grand cherokee as a quick fix because apparently too many mouth breathers couldn't figure out the simple PRND shifter.

but except the ls460 (i think?) i don't know of another high end luxury sedan that still has the leather boot.
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by davyjordi
and people not knowing that the better quality buicks are opel derived.
Opel derived? I did not know that.
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna




really?



maybe if one barely drives their car or never eats in it, etc. fortunately, the leather boot is going the way of the dodo. my last 3 vehicles (so since 2000 or 17 years!) have NOT had the leather boot (Lexus GS400, Ford Explorer, Jeep Grand Cherokee).
now for a stick, i understand having it (my acuras and miata had it), but for auto it's just sloppy and outdated. i know for '17 jeep went BACK to it and PRNDL on the grand cherokee as a quick fix because apparently too many mouth breathers couldn't figure out the simple PRND shifter.

but except the ls460 (i think?) i don't know of another high end luxury sedan that still has the leather boot.
If you are careful enough, the leather shift boot can be kept clean. But, the set up on my 4Runner gets dirty as well and can be just as hard or harder to clean.

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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Not really. I myself do it on occasion.
That was the joke lol
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