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Old 02-02-18, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Hyundai/Kia is a top 10 automaker globally. That is a major player.

In regards to design, there's only so many ways you can make a Sedan, SUV, Pick-up, Coupe etc.. no one is reinventing the wheel. And in regards to styling, these automakers hire engineers and designers from the competition, so of course there will be some overlap. No biggie. The problem or hurdle rather is the badge and its perception to the automotive society.

When I say major players, I'm not talking about size of the company. I'm talking Lexus, BMW, Audi, Mercedes.

Kia outright copies styling cues so I disagree. Maybe not so much now as 10 years ago. Can you tell me of a Lexus styling cue on its body shape that it copied from its major competitors other than the LED light on the ISF that can be argued it copied from Audi?
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Originally Posted by Autobacs
When I say major players, I'm not talking about size of the company. I'm talking Lexus, BMW, Audi, Mercedes.

Kia outright copies styling cues so I disagree. Maybe not so much now as 10 years ago. Can you tell me of a Lexus styling cue on its body shape that it copied from its major competitors other than the LED light on the ISF that can be argued it copied from Audi?
Well current Lexus styling with the Spindle is pretty unique. So let's go older. 2nd Generation GS and the 2nd gen E-Class (W210), come to mind. Also included the Jaguar S-Type for giggles.



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Old 02-02-18, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Not sure if this has been posted or not, but the latest pop-commercial for the Stinger shows Aerosmith's Steve Tyler using one to go back in time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YVbVXOjJv4
Dude looks like a lady.
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Old 02-02-18, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Hyundai/Kia is a top 10 automaker globally. That is a major player.

In regards to design, there's only so many ways you can make a Sedan, SUV, Pick-up, Coupe etc.. no one is reinventing the wheel. And in regards to styling, these automakers hire engineers and designers from the competition, so of course there will be some overlap. No biggie. The problem or hurdle rather is the badge and its perception to the automotive society.

cant believe Suzuki is on that list.
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Well current Lexus styling with the Spindle is pretty unique. So let's go older. 2nd Generation GS and the 2nd gen E-Class (W210), come to mind. Also included the Jaguar S-Type for giggles.



Uhh, just a minor point. The Benz E class in the pics is actually a W211, not a W210. The W210 from the 2GS era is this one. Quite frumpy by todays standards and of course the 2GS looked a lot more exciting from its side and rear 3/4 profiles. But I agree, some copycat for sure. I still like the Benz for its solidness though.



But for the Stinger, they definitely went Audi for design cues. The advantage here is that the Stinger uses a RWD platform vs the Audi's FWD/longitudinal setup. What you think of all this is up to you, the consumer. It's a $50K Kia for American consumers and a similar price in Euro pricing. Maybe Kia is going for local pricing with a "magic" number.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill


cant believe Suzuki is on that list.

I was just using it as an example that Hyundai/Kia is a big global corporation. This was specific to just the first 2 months of last year, so Suzuki may or may not have finished in the top 10. At the very least top 15. Good observation though.
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Originally Posted by MattyG
Uhh, just a minor point. The Benz E class in the pics is actually a W211, not a W210. The W210 from the 2GS era is this one. Quite frumpy by todays standards and of course the 2GS looked a lot more exciting from its side and rear 3/4 profiles. But I agree, some copycat for sure. I still like the Benz for its solidness though.

But for the Stinger, they definitely went Audi for design cues. The advantage here is that the Stinger uses a RWD platform vs the Audi's FWD/longitudinal setup. What you think of all this is up to you, the consumer. It's a $50K Kia for American consumers and a similar price in Euro pricing. Maybe Kia is going for local pricing with a "magic" number.
Thank you for the correction. I just wanted to highlight the GS and E-Class shared a very distinct design feature, but you're right. Jaguar also had a similar approach to the S-Type with the headlights.

Oh and I just thought of this one. Kia Amanti

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^^^ They should have gotten Steven Tyler to hustle the Amati before he started resembling Neolithic Man, lol. Actually the Euro effect could be seen in 80s/90s GTIs too. Four-eye cars.
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Old 02-02-18, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyG
^^^ They should have gotten Steven Tyler to hustle the Amati before he started resembling Neolithic Man, lol. Actually the Euro effect could be seen in 80s/90s GTIs too. Four-eye cars.
If my memory is correct, the Amanti wasn't even out yet when Aerosmith was at their peak in the 80s and early 90s.
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Old 02-02-18, 06:41 PM
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OK folks let's Walk this Way back to the Stinger
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The Stinger's best angles. It's got to be one of the nicest Kias that's for sure. Jalopnik, likes it.








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I like it in red - would be a tough call between red and that awesome dark gray if I had my choice. I did find it odd that Jalopnik complained about ride quality - don't believe any other major critics have that I have noticed.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Not sure if this has been posted or not, but the latest pop-commercial for the Stinger shows Aerosmith's Steve Tyler using one to go back in time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YVbVXOjJv4
This will be featured during the Super Bowl.
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Originally Posted by Byprodrive
This will be featured during the Super Bowl.
1071 Stingers sold in the US in Jan. Numbers will surely increase after the airing of this tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by corradoMR2
1071 Stingers sold in the US in Jan. Numbers will surely increase after the airing of this tomorrow.
I saw the 2.0T at the Philadelphia Auto Show--I was less than impressed with this version. Unfortunately, the GT was on a turntable. I'm sure the GT interior is nicer.
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