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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 03:26 PM
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Changing front shocks on '02 with 90K miles. Not leaking and seem to be controlling rebound but finding my front tires Eagle f1 Gs-D3 (yes, a soft summer tire) were cuppng badly and quickly across the entire face of the tire. Rotate to back and they round back (so I don't suspect balance issues). Can't find anything worn in the front suspension so I'm going for the most likely suspect, the shocks. Have KYB G2's coming. While I"m under there should I consider putting new upper control arms (with bushings/ball joints) even though they feel solid, look good, and no noises from the suspension?

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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 05:42 PM
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Cupping is not normally the struts. Have the alignment checked.
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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mine were cupping so i installed Megan EZ coilovers, rotated tires and had it aligned. Problem gone.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 05:11 AM
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Hmm. It's been my understanding that cupping is usually from vertical bouncing of the tire from worn suspension (often shocks) or wheel balance (the two major things that will cause or allow the tire/wheel to bounce) rather than alignment. In any case, since everything else is tight I've decided not to change anything else, just the shocks, and of course get a full alignment and balance with the new tires.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 08:07 AM
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May be we are not talking about the same symptom.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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"cupping" is also called scalloping. Basically the tire develops high and low spots at regular intervals. Somethings only on the edge, but in my case more across the face.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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Then we are talking about the same thing. My understanding that cupping or scalloping is an alignment issue when it is on the edge.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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OK. Cupping on mine is across the middle of the tread. Severe scalloping rather than a feathering. 90K miles so probably needs shocks anyway.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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Cupping is usually caused by suspension/shocks. Alignment issues usually cause tire uneven wear.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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Cupping could also be just alignment or bends in the rim or even an out of round tire from sitting, causing dead spots in the tires so they hop...I'd be surprised if you need new shocks. May be tie rod related as well.
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