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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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I spoke to a local dealer today...the salesman informed me that a totally redesigned Lexus SC was coming out THIS September...is that accurate? If not, when will it change? Thanks for any feedback...
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Car salesmen are usually not a good source of accurate info regarding their products

If it's true, we'll probably see the redesigned SC430 in the NY Autoshow next week, where they' ve already announced the unveiling of the redesigned IS to be released this September & the GS450h spring next year. No redesigned SC430 this September is mentioned.

Instead, the SC430 will probably get a facelift with some upgrades, which is a far cry from a totally redesigned new body.

For 2006 SC430, you may want to look at THIS THREAD

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Car salesmen are usually not a good source of accurate info regarding their products

If it's true, we'll probably see the redesigned SC430 in the NY Autoshow next week, where they' ve already announced the unveiling of the redesigned IS to be released this September & the GS450h spring next year. No redesigned SC430 this September is mentioned.

Instead, the SC430 will probably get a facelift with some upgrades, which is a far cry from a totally redesigned new body.

For 2006 SC430, you may want to look at THIS THREAD
Thanks for the reply. Do you have any idea when they will redesign the SC?
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If there is indeed a facelift for the SC430 for the 06 model this fall, my guess is there probably will not be a totally redesigned SC for at least 2 model years, i.e. 08 the earliest.
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Originally Posted by AmethySC
If there is indeed a facelift for the SC430 for the 06 model this fall, my guess is there probably will not be a totally redesigned SC for at least 2 model years, i.e. 08 the earliest.
yeah coming out in fall of 07 as 08 model, that makes sense. the all new LS is coming out in fall of 06, it's a good timeline
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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I agree with the others. Look at the history of the 2 top of the line cars...the LS and SC. Both had subtle changes over the years but retaining the same basic look for about 8 years. Both were and are successful. I don't see Lexus deviating too much from a successful formula. I think it'll be closer to 2010 before a totally new SC comes around.
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I agree with the others. Look at the history of the 2 top of the line cars...the LS and SC. Both had subtle changes over the years but retaining the same basic look for about 8 years. Both were and are successful. I don't see Lexus deviating too much from a successful formula. I think it'll be closer to 2010 before a totally new SC comes around.
I can't agree more with reggiek. If they are completely redesigning the SC430 within that short period of time, you can count on me of not buying the SC model in the future. The first generation last from 1991 to 2001. I expect the current generation will have minor changes throughtout its course but definitely not before 2010 for the 2011 model. (I hope I am right, of course!!)
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. . . If they are completely redesigning the SC430 within that short period of time, you can count on me of not buying the SC model in the future. The first generation last from 1991 to 2001. I expect the current generation will have minor changes throughtout its course but definitely not before 2010 for the 2011 model. (I hope I am right, of course!!)
I have read in interviews that Lexus Boss Denny Clement said all Lexus models will be redesigned by 2007, that's why I said if there's a facelift for the SC this fall, I expect it to last another 2 years til at least 08 model year(new one to come out fall 07 as Henry said). Beyond that I'm not sure if they indeed stick to their schedule I just quoted . . .
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Originally Posted by GSXOTIC
I can't agree more with reggiek. If they are completely redesigning the SC430 within that short period of time, you can count on me of not buying the SC model in the future. The first generation last from 1991 to 2001. I expect the current generation will have minor changes throughtout its course but definitely not before 2010 for the 2011 model. (I hope I am right, of course!!)
well, again to me, it's torn. from my point of view, of course i don't want to the see the sc430 got changed soon, coz' that will degrade the value of my car, very depressing

but to lexus as a business, and if they want to success, and seems like what they are trying to do, push out facelift more often and also put up new models sooner than 6 yrs is the right thing to do. the amount of business they can generate is just enormous

it's a hard fact, very hard for us to swollow for sure
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well, again to me, it's torn. from my point of view, of course i don't want to the see the sc430 got changed soon, coz' that will degrade the value of my car, very depressing

but to lexus as a business, and if they want to success, and seems like what they are trying to do, push out facelift more often and also put up new models sooner than 6 yrs is the right thing to do. the amount of business they can generate is just enormous

it's a hard fact, very hard for us to swollow for sure
You're right, changing styles often probably makes more dough in the short term but for long term success...keeping a popular style around longer can only aid sales. Especially for the dealership. Dealers can take a car in on trade knowing they will sell it quickly because people who buy used will want one close to the newest style. As long as dealers are moving cars, manufacturers can keep pumping them out. The Lexus formula of making only subtle changes but retaining the basic shape for 8 yrs has been very successful. Look at how many LS400's, GS and SC's you see out there. A well kept older Lexus is better than getting a new Honda, IMO. Especially if it's modded.
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The www.lexus.jp web site was launched a couple of months ago. When initially started, in the 'modeles tag' you could see four links :GS IS SC Concept cars.
Only the GS link was active. Then early march, when the new IS was launched during the Geneva Auto-show, the link toward the IS pages was activated.
And now the SC link is still not active. Does it mean that Lexus is awaiting a new SC annoucement to activate it?
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Originally Posted by TED_FR

The www.lexus.jp web site was launched a couple of months ago. When initially started, in the 'modeles tag' you could see four links :GS IS SC Concept cars.
Only the GS link was active. Then early march, when the new IS was launched during the Geneva Auto-show, the link toward the IS pages was activated.
And now the SC link is still not active. Does it mean that Lexus is awaiting a new SC annoucement to activate it?
I think so, but even for a facelift of the SC430, not a redesign, the car will look a little different & they are yet to reveal how it would look like.
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by reggiek
You're right, changing styles often probably makes more dough in the short term but for long term success...keeping a popular style around longer can only aid sales. Especially for the dealership. Dealers can take a car in on trade knowing they will sell it quickly because people who buy used will want one close to the newest style. As long as dealers are moving cars, manufacturers can keep pumping them out. The Lexus formula of making only subtle changes but retaining the basic shape for 8 yrs has been very successful. Look at how many LS400's, GS and SC's you see out there. A well kept older Lexus is better than getting a new Honda, IMO. Especially if it's modded.
i know what you are talking about, and seriously i guess it's up to how lexus carries out the plan. i think as long as they make the cars good enough that people are more confident into buying the cars rather than leasing the car like bmw and mb, they are going to make more money, even with more styles coming out in a shorter time.

it's funny, for us the lexus owners, most of us (yes, including me) like the fact that the car style stay long, but if you go out and talk to general public, they don't like the fact that lexus don't change style often enough. to me, that means something
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Originally Posted by TED_FR

The www.lexus.jp web site was launched a couple of months ago. When initially started, in the 'modeles tag' you could see four links :GS IS SC Concept cars.
Only the GS link was active. Then early march, when the new IS was launched during the Geneva Auto-show, the link toward the IS pages was activated.
And now the SC link is still not active. Does it mean that Lexus is awaiting a new SC annoucement to activate it?
yeah AmethySC and i were talking about this earlier. seriously it doesn't sound like a total redesign -- yet. maybe it's the cosmetic change to the headlights and taillights that will make the car look different?
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Originally Posted by rominl
yeah AmethySC and i were talking about this earlier. seriously it doesn't sound like a total redesign -- yet. maybe it's the cosmetic change to the headlights and taillights that will make the car look different?
That, would be a good thing................................IMO!
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