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I was trying to get those wheels because they came standard with the gs300 <charcoal silver though, sportdesign>.. I really liked the way they looked and would've been a nice 'refresh' from the 7 spoke wheels, but I ran across a set of 17in wheels and oh well.. but they start to come standard on 2001 I believe, they are just .5in wider than regularones, nice wheels though.. I wish you could have taken a pic, I have been trying to picture the sc with them, I have seen a LS and it looks sweet.. here <sorry for borrowing your pic if you are part of the forums!!>