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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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Aliga is selling a complete set of black interior, this is a GOOD time to buy.
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 10:30 PM
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It doesnt matter how well you paint it tho, my friend had his whole car dyed. It was good for the first two years, but after a while, it started fading, it looked stupid afterwards. It's always better to get OEM interior, you know it will last.

People will tell you SEM holds and its been a year and its still good, give it some more time, fact is, there is no dye that is good enough to outlast OEM materials. So if you're going to make the effort on taking everything off anyways, get it done right the first time.
I gotta disagree with you when it comes to certain parts of the car being dyed. For example.....why would you not dye the upper window trim from the front and back of the car, the dash, the whole center console, pieces that will never be touched by anyone's hands ever? The reason people doubt whether the dye job will last is due to being touched alot and eventually will wear out and fade.

Now I will admit my shift **** is faded from where I touch it all the time but the guy who did my dye job told me from the very beginning that would happen and I said I would eventually buy a real black one whenever it was available. I also bought the real volume, temp, and hazard buttons in black since those cannot be dyed properly.

Even my steering wheel is dyed and its going on one year and still looks the same as it did when it was first dyed. I believe though he dyed the steering wheel of mine with something different than SEM. It's honestly the only part of the car I'm worried will fade but we will see in time.

My question to those who buy the entire real black interior is this....what do you do with all the rest of your old tan interior? Sell it? No one wants tan interior parts except the door panels and thats it. So then your either going to sit on the extra tan pieces you have collecting dust in your garage or toss them in the junkyard and nothing was wrong with them.

If you dye certain parts you will save money for other mods for the car. If you invest 1000 bucks on a full oem black interior you will never be able to recoup any of that money by reselling your old tan parts. For less than half the price you can dye some parts black and buy the essential pieces you really need in OEM black.

I'm just throwing this out there. By no means am I telling everyone to dye their interiors or completely by OEM factory black pieces. In the end it all depends on how much money your willing to spend and how much space you got in your house or garage. For me dyeing made all the sense in the world with buying certain necessary factory black pieces.
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 11:50 PM
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I understand your point of view, but I've seen some of these dye jobs, friend paid a lot of money to get his BMW dyed, guess what? In a few years, it faded/pealed/etc. He had to take everything out again and get it "professionally" painted again. The time and effort that he had to put in is not worth it. Can you imagine taking your dash off two three times?

Another thing is it's easy to dye it the first time, but when you have to dye it the 2nd time, it's not as easy because you have to sand and level off previous coat before you apply the new coat, and the new coat really isnt new because it's just laying on top of the first coat, if the first coat is about to flake or peel, it will still come off.

One year it will be fine, maybe even 2, but it all comes down to how long are you keeping your car for? I will keep mine for a LONG time simply because it's not really beneficial for me to sell my car because their not worth much, I keep it and mod it for my own purpose... and so I like to get it done right the first time. If you're keeping yours for a year or so and you're going to sell it, then yea dye it, you're right, you might not have to lose as much money, but dont be an ******* and call your interior black or black/tan interior when it's really a dye job, it will not last through the next owner and he/she has the right to know what they are buying.
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by P.R.S.22
Here are some pics of my car after using SEM dye for all the black pieces. Came out great and this was done last year and still looking as good as the day I had it done. It's all in the prep work as well as putting light, even coats and you will be set.










i must admit this is very nice. loving the tan/black combo
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ClearP
I understand your point of view, but I've seen some of these dye jobs, friend paid a lot of money to get his BMW dyed, guess what? In a few years, it faded/pealed/etc. He had to take everything out again and get it "professionally" painted again. The time and effort that he had to put in is not worth it. Can you imagine taking your dash off two three times?

Another thing is it's easy to dye it the first time, but when you have to dye it the 2nd time, it's not as easy because you have to sand and level off previous coat before you apply the new coat, and the new coat really isnt new because it's just laying on top of the first coat, if the first coat is about to flake or peel, it will still come off.

One year it will be fine, maybe even 2, but it all comes down to how long are you keeping your car for? I will keep mine for a LONG time simply because it's not really beneficial for me to sell my car because their not worth much, I keep it and mod it for my own purpose... and so I like to get it done right the first time. If you're keeping yours for a year or so and you're going to sell it, then yea dye it, you're right, you might not have to lose as much money, but dont be an ******* and call your interior black or black/tan interior when it's really a dye job, it will not last through the next owner and he/she has the right to know what they are buying.
I honestly do feel bad for your friend who got screwed over with his BMW. It is unfortunate that things did not work out and he payed alot of money to get it done. You also have to keep in mind that not everyone is as shady or crooked in their work like some people in this world are. The guy who did my interior has been doing touch up dye work to lamborghini's, ferrari's, porsche, etc. for over 30 years. I was able to see some of his previous work and it was top notch.

Plus keep in mind when you buy a black interior from aliga or any other junkyard that its mostly coming out of pre-97 so the interior is already 14 years old and if your buying the front seats they too will look worn out and show signs of wear from a 14 year old car. Even my front seats got re-dyed and everyone who has ever seen my ride will tell you my seats look brand new and better than any other SC they've seen with an original interior.

I have complete confidence that my dye job will last for many years to come and I will gladly take a picture of it for you in another 2 years so you know it does withstand the test of time (already about to be 1 year of being dyed). I will NEVER sell my car for as long as I'm alive because its my first car and I believe in holding onto cars for a minimum of 10 years or more, its just how i've been raised. Since there is nothing else like these cars on the road its even more of a reason to hold onto them forever.

But honestly if someone asks me what color my interior is I will tell them it's black and tan and I will PROUDLY tell them everything black is dyed in my ride. I'm proud of it, believe me, I want to tell people it's dyed. But it is black and tan.
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Originally Posted by kwg
i must admit this is very nice. loving the tan/black combo
Thanks alot Truly appreciate it.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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what size sub do you have in the rear im thinking of putting 1 in my 300
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 03:40 PM
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what size sub do you have in the rear im thinking of putting 1 in my 300
10" Pioneer TS-W252R sub.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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My friend didnt go to a shady shop, they do a lot of custom cars and such, but it will fade, and it will crack, just a matter of time. I bought my interior from a 98 sc400, it looked brand new, i didnt buy the seats tho because the car was totalled and glass were all over the seats.

Either way, I see so many people on this forum selling their cars advertising black interior when it's dyed, fact is fact, maybe you did a great job on getting your interior prepped, but if you look all the DIY threads and "bringing back this beauty" threads, you can see people don't even have a adhesive cleaner around. I give you props for getting it dyed the right way, but i disagree on the idea that if you use SEM it will last a long time and you can sell it as OEM black interior. Not saying you meant any of it, just thinking out loud here.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ClearP
My friend didnt go to a shady shop, they do a lot of custom cars and such, but it will fade, and it will crack, just a matter of time. I bought my interior from a 98 sc400, it looked brand new, i didnt buy the seats tho because the car was totalled and glass were all over the seats.

Either way, I see so many people on this forum selling their cars advertising black interior when it's dyed, fact is fact, maybe you did a great job on getting your interior prepped, but if you look all the DIY threads and "bringing back this beauty" threads, you can see people don't even have a adhesive cleaner around. I give you props for getting it dyed the right way, but i disagree on the idea that if you use SEM it will last a long time and you can sell it as OEM black interior. Not saying you meant any of it, just thinking out loud here.

Well I certainly give you props for getting a clean interior from a 97+ SC. In my time with the SCs I have noticed that although it may be harder to find a junked 97+ they still have real nice interiors from the original owners in comparison to pre-97 SCs.

Now I agree with you if people on here are selling their rides saying its a black interior without mentioning it was dyed on the forum than that is a problem. I also agree that for the most part I have seen no one use the adhesive promoter that is recommended to use when applying the SEM dye.

In the end its all good bro This is why I love this forum because we have different tastes and ideas on the same ride. We are all entitled to our own opinions. Either way of getting the job done in my book works for me.
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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not really hard once you have the right tools, Ive done it on my lexus and audi.
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