Need some advice. Suspension gurus only.
Okay I need the nest setup and don't want to mess around. If you guys can PM me with the best setup so my car "rides on rails" I would be very thankful. I would like to hear the pros and cons of the setup. I basically want a nice smooth ride that is not too stiff. A good blend of plenty of performance without completely loosing the luxury feel.
E-mail me Hermosa....
I just got rid of those KYB's in favor of the Stocks with Eibach springs and I really like it. You are welcome to drive it and check it out.
However... if money were not the key issue... I would say Tein CS or air bag the whole car....
I just got rid of those KYB's in favor of the Stocks with Eibach springs and I really like it. You are welcome to drive it and check it out.
However... if money were not the key issue... I would say Tein CS or air bag the whole car....
Actually Manaray, I called them and they told me there is a variable suspension model of Tien that has a separate console that you mount in the car. From this you can change to the sport suspension or make it like the cs just at the press of a button. The cost is around $1700. Sounds cool so I might get it.
Originally posted by manaray
Hands down: Tein CS for the Supra.
Smooth ride, great handling, adjustable height, adjustable dampening, low price. PM Steve Ganz for a price...
Hands down: Tein CS for the Supra.
Smooth ride, great handling, adjustable height, adjustable dampening, low price. PM Steve Ganz for a price...
Yeah, they're talking about the Tein Flex and the EDFC...both of which, I have on my GS...
But here's the deal...the SC uses Supra coilovers...the Supra version of the Flex is HARDER than the HA's...that's the problem. So even at the softest settings, the HA will still be softer...(which is still stiff)...the CS's on the other hand, can be set to just a tad bit stiffer than stock...
However, there is no confirmation about the EDFC working with the CS....I didn't install my EDFC because I would have to take off my STB's and I'd MUCH rather have my STB then dampening adjustability from the cabin...if I need to adjust it, I just do it manually...once you find a "good setting", you won't change it...
But here's the deal...the SC uses Supra coilovers...the Supra version of the Flex is HARDER than the HA's...that's the problem. So even at the softest settings, the HA will still be softer...(which is still stiff)...the CS's on the other hand, can be set to just a tad bit stiffer than stock...
However, there is no confirmation about the EDFC working with the CS....I didn't install my EDFC because I would have to take off my STB's and I'd MUCH rather have my STB then dampening adjustability from the cabin...if I need to adjust it, I just do it manually...once you find a "good setting", you won't change it...
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Originally posted by Manaray
Yeah, they're talking about the Tein Flex and the EDFC...both of which, I have on my GS...
But here's the deal...the SC uses Supra coilovers...the Supra version of the Flex is HARDER than the HA's...that's the problem. So even at the softest settings, the HA will still be softer...(which is still stiff)...the CS's on the other hand, can be set to just a tad bit stiffer than stock...
However, there is no confirmation about the EDFC working with the CS....I didn't install my EDFC because I would have to take off my STB's and I'd MUCH rather have my STB then dampening adjustability from the cabin...if I need to adjust it, I just do it manually...once you find a "good setting", you won't change it...
Yeah, they're talking about the Tein Flex and the EDFC...both of which, I have on my GS...
But here's the deal...the SC uses Supra coilovers...the Supra version of the Flex is HARDER than the HA's...that's the problem. So even at the softest settings, the HA will still be softer...(which is still stiff)...the CS's on the other hand, can be set to just a tad bit stiffer than stock...
However, there is no confirmation about the EDFC working with the CS....I didn't install my EDFC because I would have to take off my STB's and I'd MUCH rather have my STB then dampening adjustability from the cabin...if I need to adjust it, I just do it manually...once you find a "good setting", you won't change it...
Okay I like to play around with stuff so I am thinking of putting in coilovers. Is the handling really there with the CS? I would want about 1/2" vertically between the top of the tire and the fender. Is this possible with the CS or is there a maximum drop? What is the smallest gap?
Since my car is getting a turbo installed I would like for my car to rise on rails and was wondering if this was a reality with the CS. With the Eibachs and KYB adjs I was taking freeway exit turns at 75mph.
I just do not want to get HAs and then want CSs or vice versa.
Anyone have input? Thanks.
Hermosa,
Ride height is only one factor affecting handling. While the lowered springs and performance struts make a dramatic effect, this is mostly because of the stock ride is so loose and comfy. Overall, if you loaded up a set of CS Tein's I think you could obtain the drop but minimal increase in handling performance compared the the same cash spent on other components.
Sway bars would be my suggestion for you. A nice set of stiff front and rear bars will make you grin from ear to ear.
MW
Ride height is only one factor affecting handling. While the lowered springs and performance struts make a dramatic effect, this is mostly because of the stock ride is so loose and comfy. Overall, if you loaded up a set of CS Tein's I think you could obtain the drop but minimal increase in handling performance compared the the same cash spent on other components.
Sway bars would be my suggestion for you. A nice set of stiff front and rear bars will make you grin from ear to ear.
MW
Yeah. Someone mentioned earlier that the gas tank in back actually provides a large amount of rigidity. I do not think there is a front strut tower bar available for us but I might get one produced. Sway bars will be nice. What else can I do?
Last edited by Hermosa; Jan 3, 2003 at 11:41 PM.
Hermosa,
Check the sticky on strut tower bars. There are a couple that fit, most are the thinner or oval models. The Cusco looks really nice.
Also, sway bars are not made to stiffen the chassis. They are made to transfer compression from the inside half of the car to the outside suspension. This allows for less "sway" and more stick. Therefore, this is the KEY ingredient in making your car "rise on rails" as you put it.
MW
Check the sticky on strut tower bars. There are a couple that fit, most are the thinner or oval models. The Cusco looks really nice.
Also, sway bars are not made to stiffen the chassis. They are made to transfer compression from the inside half of the car to the outside suspension. This allows for less "sway" and more stick. Therefore, this is the KEY ingredient in making your car "rise on rails" as you put it.

MW
Originally posted by Hermosa
Yeah. Someone mentioned earlier that the gas tank in back actually provides a large amount of rigidity. I do not think there is a front strut tower bar available for us but I might get one produced. Sway bars will be nice. What else can I do?
Yeah. Someone mentioned earlier that the gas tank in back actually provides a large amount of rigidity. I do not think there is a front strut tower bar available for us but I might get one produced. Sway bars will be nice. What else can I do?
Hermosa, you might want to look into the HKS HyperCoilovers. They are height adjustable and easy to change the from soft to very firm. Not to mention they are made from top quality materials. They will give you that "riding on rails" feeling.
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