Notices
SC - 1st Gen (1992-2000)

Wastegate spring

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 03:53 AM
  #1  
RIP TimmyD's Avatar
RIP TimmyD
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Default Wastegate spring

This is going to sound stupid but i have a hks wastegate and im not sure what size it is. I inquired the lexus from my best friend that passed away. My question is is it possible to change the spring to get more boost out of it? I know that the car is running about 8-10 pounds of boost now. Thanks for your time
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 04:34 AM
  #2  
OneJay's Avatar
OneJay
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,263
Likes: 8
From: Denver
Default

Ya you can change it, but I would make sure to tune it afterwards. What kind of engine management is he running?
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 12:48 PM
  #3  
craaaazzy's Avatar
craaaazzy
Lead Lap
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 673
Likes: 0
From: GA
Default

first, is it running just off the wastegate spring? if so, u can either add a boost controller or some T's to the vacuum line from the compressor housing. both will increase the amount of boost over running just off the spring.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 02:25 PM
  #4  
2jzlex's Avatar
2jzlex
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 811
Likes: 2
From: oklahoma
Default

Originally Posted by craaaazzy
or some T's to the vacuum line from the compressor housing. both will increase the amount of boost over running just off the spring.
...........
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 04:31 PM
  #5  
DJ420a's Avatar
DJ420a
Pole Position
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 358
Likes: 2
From: PA
Default

Originally Posted by 2jzlex
...........

Im with this guy....please elaborate.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 04:57 PM
  #6  
craaaazzy's Avatar
craaaazzy
Lead Lap
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 673
Likes: 0
From: GA
Default

the way a boost controller works is by limiting(ie. reducing) the amount the pressure in the vacuum line to the wastegate. you can do the same exact thing using t's in this vacuum line...by releasing the pressure in the line to atmosphere. same exact concept as the boost controller but simpler. i'll take a picture of my set up this weekend when i get the chance.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 06:21 PM
  #7  
2jzlex's Avatar
2jzlex
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 811
Likes: 2
From: oklahoma
Default

Originally Posted by craaaazzy
the way a boost controller works is by limiting(ie. reducing) the amount the pressure in the vacuum line to the wastegate. you can do the same exact thing using t's in this vacuum line...by releasing the pressure in the line to atmosphere. same exact concept as the boost controller but simpler. i'll take a picture of my set up this weekend when i get the chance.
Whoa Whoa ALL wrong. That is NOT the same concept. The way you are setting it up constantly diverts pressure to the atmosphere, this is a horrible way to do it. You are wasting spool time and positive pressure by doing it this way. On top of that, you would definately have control issues. A boost controller be it MBC or EBC, delays the pressure allowing it to build to a certain point then releases it to the atmosphere. No boost controller does it the way you are describing, none. If you want to make an at home boost controller, use a brass tee with 2 barb fittings, a balll and spring in the center, and a bolt on one side. That is one way to do it and actually works decent for the 5$ that it cost to make it. You need to get a different setup man, that is literally like the worst way to do it.
Reply
Old Dec 12, 2008 | 03:54 AM
  #8  
RIP TimmyD's Avatar
RIP TimmyD
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Default

Ok this is the setup it has a turbonetics T66 a spearco front mount intercooler an hks 40mm wastegate and a blitz blow off valve. It has a walboro fuel pump also. No engine management or air fuel controller or boost controller. What i want to do is get the most out of the setup that i have. I just dont know much about what its capable of. I was told that by changing the spring and putting a thicker gead gasket and bigger injectors that i could run 18 pounds. What is the best thing to do right now? Thanks for your time
Reply
ClubLexus Stories

Celebrating Lexus & Toyota from Around the Globe

story-0

Toyota and Lexus Join Mille Miglia For The First Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Lexus NX 350h: A Fuel-Sipping Secret Hot Hatch???

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

5 Best & 5 Worst Lexus Daily Drivers

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Top 5 Hottest Lexus & Toyotas in 2026 (Hardest To Buy)

 Brett Foote
story-4

2026 Lexus IS 350 F Sport Review: The Last of Its Kind Still Rocks

 Michael S. Palmer
story-5

Top 10 Most Confusing Things Lexus Has Ever Done!

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

2026 Lexus ES Review: Lexus Re-Embraces Founding Principles

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Lexus Bargains That are Cheaper Than a New Toyota RAV4

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

8 Weirdest Things Lexus Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Lexus Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Dec 12, 2008 | 06:13 AM
  #9  
craaaazzy's Avatar
craaaazzy
Lead Lap
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 673
Likes: 0
From: GA
Default

Originally Posted by 2jzlex
Whoa Whoa ALL wrong. That is NOT the same concept. The way you are setting it up constantly diverts pressure to the atmosphere, this is a horrible way to do it. You are wasting spool time and positive pressure by doing it this way. On top of that, you would definately have control issues. A boost controller be it MBC or EBC, delays the pressure allowing it to build to a certain point then releases it to the atmosphere. No boost controller does it the way you are describing, none. If you want to make an at home boost controller, use a brass tee with 2 barb fittings, a balll and spring in the center, and a bolt on one side. That is one way to do it and actually works decent for the 5$ that it cost to make it. You need to get a different setup man, that is literally like the worst way to do it.
you are correct, i was mistaken on how boostcontroller works. but yes, i am diverting pressure to atmosphere and i do agree that i am losing a little spool but really how much??? a small 1/4inch diameter hose versus 2.5in out? i have a manual boost controller sitting in my garage, maybe i can do some testing...it would be interesting to see.

one of the main reasons i like doing it this way is that it is less prone to failure. i am not relying on a boostcontroller and it's moving parts (manual) or solenoids (electronic).

hey, if it works for my buddy's 1000rwhp+ supra, it works for me.
Reply
Old Dec 12, 2008 | 07:00 AM
  #10  
2jzlex's Avatar
2jzlex
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 811
Likes: 2
From: oklahoma
Default

1000 Whp or not, that still is not a good way to do it. Honestly unless he has a very specific reason for doing that, I would question highly question that build, lol. If you are strapped for cash you can make a very simple MBC that will get the job done, still not the best way but it's definately better than what you've got now.

http://www.geocities.com/chmwatson/FAQs/mbc.html

There are alot of variations to this and by far the best way to do it is by an EBC. But again if you don't want to spend the money at least build yourself something like this.
Reply
Old Dec 12, 2008 | 12:05 PM
  #11  
craaaazzy's Avatar
craaaazzy
Lead Lap
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 673
Likes: 0
From: GA
Default

it's not about the money for either of us (else we wouldn't be modifying our cars, right?). i do have a manual boostcontroller so i may try that some time. but like i mentioned, this is an easy and failure safe way to increase boost (be it less efficient).
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
SCereal
SC - 1st Gen (1992-2000)
5
Feb 11, 2014 06:06 PM
slappy96
SC - 1st Gen (1992-2000)
11
Oct 19, 2010 12:41 PM
redline808
SC - 1st Gen (1992-2000)
7
Aug 6, 2010 07:43 AM
Dx3
Performance
16
Nov 15, 2005 04:38 PM
JeffTsai
Performance
3
Oct 25, 2005 07:46 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:25 PM.

story-0
Toyota and Lexus Join Mille Miglia For The First Time

Slideshow: A five-car lineup spanning more than five decades of Toyota performance and engineering will tackle one of Italy's most celebrated automotive routes.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-15 16:53:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
Lexus NX 350h: A Fuel-Sipping Secret Hot Hatch???

Slideshow: a quick review of the 2026 Lexus NX 350h F Sport Handling

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-18 14:36:21


VIEW MORE
story-2
5 Best & 5 Worst Lexus Daily Drivers

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Lexus daily drivers

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 11:14:58


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 5 Hottest Lexus & Toyotas in 2026 (Hardest To Buy)

These five Lexus and Toyota models are the most sought-after on the market right now.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-15 10:47:52


VIEW MORE
story-4
2026 Lexus IS 350 F Sport Review: The Last of Its Kind Still Rocks

Slideshow: the 2026 IS 350 isn't all that new, and that's why we love it!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-04 14:35:23


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Most Confusing Things Lexus Has Ever Done!

Slideshow: 10 most confusing things Lexus has ever done.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-04 09:40:55


VIEW MORE
story-6
2026 Lexus ES Review: Lexus Re-Embraces Founding Principles

Slideshow: Our First-Drive Review of the 2026 Lexus ES!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-29 20:30:16


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Lexus Bargains That are Cheaper Than a New Toyota RAV4

Slideshow: 10 Lexus bargain that are cheaper than a new Toyota.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 10:28:20


VIEW MORE
story-8
8 Weirdest Things Lexus Has Ever Built

Slideshow: From hoverboards to luxury yachts, these are the strangest projects Lexus has ever attached its badge to.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-16 11:34:36


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Lexus Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Some luxury cars chase trends, but these Lexus models look better now than they did when they first rolled into showrooms.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-06 17:58:29


VIEW MORE