Which Tein????
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Which Tein????
I'm thinking about getting the tein basics but someone here told me that i should get the tein cs. Is there that much bigger difference between the basics and the CS or should I be happy with the basics. I'm probably gonna sport a staggered set of 18" or 19" wheels.
Originally Posted by ajayssc40093
Tein basics doesn't have adjustable dampening, do a search or go to the Tein site and you'll find more info.
Maybe I should search, but since my question would be benerficial to SharpCreas' thread:
what does it mean to adjust the dampening, and is the ability worth the extra money to upgrade from the Basics?
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hey,
I just did some research into this recently and ended up ordering TEIN flex.
Basics are "OK" if all you want is a lower ride... Performance wise they arent THAT great.. with coilovers its VERY beneficial to be able to control dampening and front camber plates are also quite useful.
Dampening allows you set your 'ride' based on need. track/street
Also, the quality of the higher end model means a system bvetter tuned for your specific car.
In the end, you get what you pay for...
and you have to remember that Tein flex is considered the most entry level coilover in Japan (when it comes to being moderatly serious about suspension performance)...
good luck.
I just did some research into this recently and ended up ordering TEIN flex.
Basics are "OK" if all you want is a lower ride... Performance wise they arent THAT great.. with coilovers its VERY beneficial to be able to control dampening and front camber plates are also quite useful.
Dampening allows you set your 'ride' based on need. track/street
Also, the quality of the higher end model means a system bvetter tuned for your specific car.
In the end, you get what you pay for...
and you have to remember that Tein flex is considered the most entry level coilover in Japan (when it comes to being moderatly serious about suspension performance)...
good luck.
Originally Posted by recoil
hey,
I just did some research into this recently and ended up ordering TEIN flex.
Basics are "OK" if all you want is a lower ride... Performance wise they arent THAT great.. with coilovers its VERY beneficial to be able to control dampening and front camber plates are also quite useful.
Dampening allows you set your 'ride' based on need. track/street
Also, the quality of the higher end model means a system bvetter tuned for your specific car.
In the end, you get what you pay for...
and you have to remember that Tein flex is considered the most entry level coilover in Japan (when it comes to being moderatly serious about suspension performance)...
good luck.
I just did some research into this recently and ended up ordering TEIN flex.
Basics are "OK" if all you want is a lower ride... Performance wise they arent THAT great.. with coilovers its VERY beneficial to be able to control dampening and front camber plates are also quite useful.
Dampening allows you set your 'ride' based on need. track/street
Also, the quality of the higher end model means a system bvetter tuned for your specific car.
In the end, you get what you pay for...
and you have to remember that Tein flex is considered the most entry level coilover in Japan (when it comes to being moderatly serious about suspension performance)...
good luck.
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Yeah, all the places I've asked recommend Tein SS for but purely for street. If any track work is going to be seen then I was recommended Tein Flex (but the spring rates seem a little on the harder side of things compared to SS, and the Tein SS comes with rubber reinforced upper mounts instead of solid upper mounts). I'll most likely be getting Tein SS but not yet heheh.
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Originally Posted by Soarer_25GTT
Yeah, all the places I've asked recommend Tein SS for but purely for street. If any track work is going to be seen then I was recommended Tein Flex (but the spring rates seem a little on the harder side of things compared to SS, and the Tein SS comes with rubber reinforced upper mounts instead of solid upper mounts). I'll most likely be getting Tein SS but not yet heheh.
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For Mind Cruising
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It's up to you if you wanna spend the extra coin. I mean if I could afford them I would go all out with the Tein CS but not for the price they're going for here in Australia 
For me I can't justify spending more than I have to, if the Tein SS are adjustable for height and firmness then that's all that I can ask for since my car is a daily driver, plus the spring rates (according to the Tein website) are softer for the Super Street compared to the Flex Damper.
Tein Super Street
Spring Rate (f/r): 10.0kg/6.0kg
Upper Mount Type: Reinforced rubber
Tein Flex Damper
Spring Rate (f/r): 14.0kg/8.0kg
Upper Mount Type: Solid pillowball
Mind you, I've had a set of Kei-Office coilovers which would bust your *** if you weren't careful, and the spring rates on those were more than the Tein Flex and I had bad experiences with them so I want a softer set up since I've only got a daily driver.
Just my two cents
Jose
For me I can't justify spending more than I have to, if the Tein SS are adjustable for height and firmness then that's all that I can ask for since my car is a daily driver, plus the spring rates (according to the Tein website) are softer for the Super Street compared to the Flex Damper.Tein Super Street
Spring Rate (f/r): 10.0kg/6.0kg
Upper Mount Type: Reinforced rubber
Tein Flex Damper
Spring Rate (f/r): 14.0kg/8.0kg
Upper Mount Type: Solid pillowball
Mind you, I've had a set of Kei-Office coilovers which would bust your *** if you weren't careful, and the spring rates on those were more than the Tein Flex and I had bad experiences with them so I want a softer set up since I've only got a daily driver.
Just my two cents
Jose
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You can never go wrong with the Tein SS on a daily driver. 
I had Eibach springs with blown stock struts/shocks on my SC4 and the ride was simply horrible because of the bad shocks. I could literally felt every little bump on the road and my CD player skipped 20 times each day on my way to work.
After I had the Tein SS installed, my CD player has been almost flawless (except when I hit big potholes) and the ride is just 100 times better than it was before. I actually got car sick during the first couple of days when I had the SS installed because these coilovers just felt so comfortable and floatly on the freeway.
For comparison purposes, I also rode in a 2002' SC430 with the Tein CS (fitted w/ more aggressive Tein springs) and 20' rims on the same day when I got my SS installed. The SC4 with SS actually felt a tad more comfortable than the SC430.
And yes, the SS is both height/firmness adjustable. TM Engineering set my fronts at 16/16 and the rears at 12/16.
Jon
I had Eibach springs with blown stock struts/shocks on my SC4 and the ride was simply horrible because of the bad shocks. I could literally felt every little bump on the road and my CD player skipped 20 times each day on my way to work.
After I had the Tein SS installed, my CD player has been almost flawless (except when I hit big potholes) and the ride is just 100 times better than it was before. I actually got car sick during the first couple of days when I had the SS installed because these coilovers just felt so comfortable and floatly on the freeway.
For comparison purposes, I also rode in a 2002' SC430 with the Tein CS (fitted w/ more aggressive Tein springs) and 20' rims on the same day when I got my SS installed. The SC4 with SS actually felt a tad more comfortable than the SC430.
And yes, the SS is both height/firmness adjustable. TM Engineering set my fronts at 16/16 and the rears at 12/16.
Jon
Originally Posted by Soarer_25GTT
It's up to you if you wanna spend the extra coin. I mean if I could afford them I would go all out with the Tein CS but not for the price they're going for here in Australia For me I can't justify spending more than I have to, if the Tein SS are adjustable for height and firmness then that's all that I can ask for since my car is a daily driver, plus the spring rates (according to the Tein website) are softer for the Super Street compared to the Flex Damper.
Tein Super Street
Spring Rate (f/r): 10.0kg/6.0kg
Upper Mount Type: Reinforced rubber
Tein Flex Damper
Spring Rate (f/r): 14.0kg/8.0kg
Upper Mount Type: Solid pillowball
Mind you, I've had a set of Kei-Office coilovers which would bust your *** if you weren't careful, and the spring rates on those were more than the Tein Flex and I had bad experiences with them so I want a softer set up since I've only got a daily driver.
Just my two cents
Jose
For me I can't justify spending more than I have to, if the Tein SS are adjustable for height and firmness then that's all that I can ask for since my car is a daily driver, plus the spring rates (according to the Tein website) are softer for the Super Street compared to the Flex Damper.Tein Super Street
Spring Rate (f/r): 10.0kg/6.0kg
Upper Mount Type: Reinforced rubber
Tein Flex Damper
Spring Rate (f/r): 14.0kg/8.0kg
Upper Mount Type: Solid pillowball
Mind you, I've had a set of Kei-Office coilovers which would bust your *** if you weren't careful, and the spring rates on those were more than the Tein Flex and I had bad experiences with them so I want a softer set up since I've only got a daily driver.
Just my two cents
Jose
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Originally Posted by SharpCreas
So the Tein SS is probably the best choice for the price I guess. But is the Tein SS as comfortable as a Tein CS.
You guys keep mentioning how soft the SS set is.
When you say this, you're not saying they're softer than my stock suspension, are they? I really don't wanna drop almost a grand to have a car that handles like a floating potato.
Will they be as soft or firmer than my Tokicos and Espelirs? That was a great, smooth ride that was slightly stiffer than stock.
When you say this, you're not saying they're softer than my stock suspension, are they? I really don't wanna drop almost a grand to have a car that handles like a floating potato.
Will they be as soft or firmer than my Tokicos and Espelirs? That was a great, smooth ride that was slightly stiffer than stock.
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From: California
That's the whole concept of the SS having 16 way adjustable positions for damping.
If you want to have a car that rides like a race car, then click it to 1/16.
I personally hate having a harsh ride and therefore, positioned the adjustment to 16/16 up front. It turned out to be very cushy and comfortable. It's more comfortable than the stock set up.
And no, having a comfortable ride does not mean that the car handles like a floating potato.
Jon
If you want to have a car that rides like a race car, then click it to 1/16.
I personally hate having a harsh ride and therefore, positioned the adjustment to 16/16 up front. It turned out to be very cushy and comfortable. It's more comfortable than the stock set up.
And no, having a comfortable ride does not mean that the car handles like a floating potato.
Jon
Originally Posted by MongooseGA
You guys keep mentioning how soft the SS set is.
When you say this, you're not saying they're softer than my stock suspension, are they? I really don't wanna drop almost a grand to have a car that handles like a floating potato.
Will they be as soft or firmer than my Tokicos and Espelirs? That was a great, smooth ride that was slightly stiffer than stock.
When you say this, you're not saying they're softer than my stock suspension, are they? I really don't wanna drop almost a grand to have a car that handles like a floating potato.
Will they be as soft or firmer than my Tokicos and Espelirs? That was a great, smooth ride that was slightly stiffer than stock.