2023 Lexus RZ 450e
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Tell that to Akio.
https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/co.../36428993.html
Furthermore, we will expand the options for carbon-neutral vehicles by offering a full lineup of battery EVs.
Specifically, we plan to roll out 30 battery EV models by 2030, globally offering a full lineup of battery EVs in the passenger and commercial segments.
Please take a look. This is Toyota's greater battery EV lineup!
The future that we showed you today is by no means far away. Most of the Toyota battery EVs that we introduced here are models that will be coming out in the next few years.
We aim to achieve global sales of 3.5 million battery EVs per year by 2030.
Lexus aims to realize a full lineup of battery EVs in all vehicle segments by 2030 and to have battery EVs account for 100 percent of its vehicle sales in Europe, North America, and China, totaling 1 million units globally. And it aims for battery EVs to make up 100 percent of its global vehicles sales in 2035.
Specifically, we plan to roll out 30 battery EV models by 2030, globally offering a full lineup of battery EVs in the passenger and commercial segments.
Please take a look. This is Toyota's greater battery EV lineup!
The future that we showed you today is by no means far away. Most of the Toyota battery EVs that we introduced here are models that will be coming out in the next few years.
We aim to achieve global sales of 3.5 million battery EVs per year by 2030.
Lexus aims to realize a full lineup of battery EVs in all vehicle segments by 2030 and to have battery EVs account for 100 percent of its vehicle sales in Europe, North America, and China, totaling 1 million units globally. And it aims for battery EVs to make up 100 percent of its global vehicles sales in 2035.
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The very first SSD Lexus will be the expensive Lexus sports cars. Have to watch the presentations to pick it up. Toyota hybrids will be SSD before any BEV
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From Forbes:
Those thinking long-term have eyed solid-state batteries as a successor to Li-ion. Research is underway and prototypes are in development, but it could be a decade before a solid-state device is available for public consumption: experts estimate solid-state technology will cost ~$800/kWh to ~$400/kWh by 2026
Last edited by AMIRZA786; Apr 6, 2022 at 10:39 AM.
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That's not possible because SSD's are not ready for prime time. QuantumScape who is one of the leaders in SSD battery tech has said as much. BTW Toyota is not developing SSD batteries in case there is a misunderstanding. They are investing in the tech like other automakers.
From Forbes:
Those thinking long-term have eyed solid-state batteries as a successor to Li-ion. Research is underway and prototypes are in development, but it could be a decade before a solid-state device is available for public consumption: experts estimate solid-state technology will cost ~$800/kWh to ~$400/kWh by 2026
From Forbes:
Those thinking long-term have eyed solid-state batteries as a successor to Li-ion. Research is underway and prototypes are in development, but it could be a decade before a solid-state device is available for public consumption: experts estimate solid-state technology will cost ~$800/kWh to ~$400/kWh by 2026
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https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ead%20of%2018s.
With a 72.8-kWh (gross-capacity) battery, the Solterra earns an EPA-rated 228 miles of range in Premium trim and 222 miles for the Limited and Touring models, which are heavier and wear 20-inch wheels instead of 18s. Charging isn't particularly quick, with an onboard 6.6-kW charger replenishing the battery in nine hours on a Level 2 charger and a 100-kW DC fast-charging setup delivering an 80 percent charge in a claimed 56 minutes.
Hyundai has 250 miles in AWD form doing 0-60 in 4.7s and and 300 miles in their RWD doing 0-60 in mid 7s. Both versions charge to 80% in 18 minutes. BTW, my Model 3 with 74kwh battery gets an EPA range of 310 miles. Real world around 275 miles, charges in 22 min to 80% and 0-60 in 3s and its a 2019 Model but was released in 2017!
You would think newer would be better (or at least competitive)
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The charging time will absolutely make a difference. Even a BIG EV fan like me wouldn't touch an EV that takes an hour to charge to 80%! 1 HOUR! Couple that with the mediocre range and its not competitive and the absolute worst in the industry by a country mile. We are talking 2014 level technology here...sad.
Last edited by bitkahuna; Apr 6, 2022 at 10:35 AM.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ead%20of%2018s.
With a 72.8-kWh (gross-capacity) battery, the Solterra earns an EPA-rated 228 miles of range in Premium trim and 222 miles for the Limited and Touring models, which are heavier and wear 20-inch wheels instead of 18s. Charging isn't particularly quick, with an onboard 6.6-kW charger replenishing the battery in nine hours on a Level 2 charger and a 100-kW DC fast-charging setup delivering an 80 percent charge in a claimed 56 minutes.
Hyundai has 250 miles in AWD form doing 0-60 in 4.7s and and 300 miles in their RWD doing 0-60 in mid 7s. Both versions charge to 80% in 18 minutes. BTW, my Model 3 with 74kwh battery gets an EPA range of 310 miles. Real world around 275 miles, charges in 22 min to 80% and 0-60 in 3s and its a 2019 Model but was released in 2017!
You would think newer would be better (or at least competitive)
With a 72.8-kWh (gross-capacity) battery, the Solterra earns an EPA-rated 228 miles of range in Premium trim and 222 miles for the Limited and Touring models, which are heavier and wear 20-inch wheels instead of 18s. Charging isn't particularly quick, with an onboard 6.6-kW charger replenishing the battery in nine hours on a Level 2 charger and a 100-kW DC fast-charging setup delivering an 80 percent charge in a claimed 56 minutes.
Hyundai has 250 miles in AWD form doing 0-60 in 4.7s and and 300 miles in their RWD doing 0-60 in mid 7s. Both versions charge to 80% in 18 minutes. BTW, my Model 3 with 74kwh battery gets an EPA range of 310 miles. Real world around 275 miles, charges in 22 min to 80% and 0-60 in 3s and its a 2019 Model but was released in 2017!
You would think newer would be better (or at least competitive)
so maybe this weaksauce offering will still do fine. after all it's a toylexbaru
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It does matter if you go to a fast charger and it takes 50 minutes. If you were able to get maybe 400 miles range it would matter a little less, but that charging time is pathetic only because it's from fast charging. If this vehicle is only used for short commutes and is exclusively charged at home, it matters a little less
It does matter if you go to a fast charger and it takes 50 minutes. If you were able to get maybe 400 miles range it would matter a little less, but that charging time is pathetic only because it's from fast charging. If this vehicle is only used for short commutes and is exclusively charged at home, it matters a little less
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The charging time will absolutely make a difference. Even a BIG EV fan like me wouldn't touch an EV that takes an hour to charge to 80%! 1 HOUR! Couple that with the mediocre range and its not competitive and the absolute worst in the industry by a country mile. We are talking 2014 level technology here...sad.