Notices
RX - 4th Gen (2016-2022) Discussion topics related to the 2016 and up RX350 and RX450h models

Mark Levinson Stereo replacement

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 29, 2015 | 06:12 AM
  #1  
aznkorboi's Avatar
aznkorboi
Thread Starter
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,161
Likes: 117
From: ca
Wink Mark Levinson Stereo replacement

So I know I'm jumping the gun, but I'll most likely be purchasing a 2016 RX when it comes out.

I've been trying to do a lot of research on stereo speaker/sub replacements on the RX but have come up short in most cases.

I've sat in a car with the ML setup and I am not too fond of it.

Does anyone know if we could change the speakers in the RX as well as install or replace the sub/amp without any issues?


Let's say I got an RX with the Lexus Premium Sound with no factory sub/amp vs just sucking it up and buying the ML system so that all the wiring is done for the sub/amp so it's easier to replace.


I am usually in my car a lot, commuting, and I love a good stereo system setup with good rich quality sound.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2015 | 11:43 AM
  #2  
rayaans's Avatar
rayaans
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,086
Likes: 9
From: West Yorkshire
Default

Have you heard the ML in the new RX then? I doubt its going to remain 15 speakers and 300w. Itll most likely be a similiar system to the GS - 17 speaker 800w system. Probably best to wait and hear it first than jumping into conclusions
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2016 | 09:21 PM
  #3  
ricke944's Avatar
ricke944
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by rayaans
Have you heard the ML in the new RX then? I doubt its going to remain 15 speakers and 300w. Itll most likely be a similiar system to the GS - 17 speaker 800w system. Probably best to wait and hear it first than jumping into conclusions
Had ML in my RX330 and have it in my 2012 IS F. Not impressed with it so did not order it in my 2016 RX350. Disclaimer: I have poor hearing.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2016 | 06:29 AM
  #4  
MercuryISF's Avatar
MercuryISF
Pole Position
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 269
Likes: 13
From: PA
Default

There's is nothing wrong with the ML. To each his own I guess.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2016 | 09:52 AM
  #5  
coolsaber's Avatar
coolsaber
Lead Lap
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 4,513
Likes: 345
From: In your head
Default

Originally Posted by aznkorboi
So I know I'm jumping the gun, but I'll most likely be purchasing a 2016 RX when it comes out.

I've been trying to do a lot of research on stereo speaker/sub replacements on the RX but have come up short in most cases.

I've sat in a car with the ML setup and I am not too fond of it.

Does anyone know if we could change the speakers in the RX as well as install or replace the sub/amp without any issues?


Let's say I got an RX with the Lexus Premium Sound with no factory sub/amp vs just sucking it up and buying the ML system so that all the wiring is done for the sub/amp so it's easier to replace.


I am usually in my car a lot, commuting, and I love a good stereo system setup with good rich quality sound.
WHy not just buy the ML sound from the get. Cheaper and easier then buying it later. Side note there was a couple of posters who skipped the ML due to it being a lackluster upgrade. I would search the forums if I were u
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2016 | 12:35 PM
  #6  
aznkorboi's Avatar
aznkorboi
Thread Starter
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,161
Likes: 117
From: ca
Default

for sure. this was an old post.

ended up getting the ML system.

just going to either swap out the 8 in sub with something better or get a seperate amp and sub box!

love the ml but it is lacking the low end frequencies!
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2016 | 04:29 PM
  #7  
rayaans's Avatar
rayaans
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,086
Likes: 9
From: West Yorkshire
Default

Originally Posted by aznkorboi
for sure. this was an old post.

ended up getting the ML system.

just going to either swap out the 8 in sub with something better or get a seperate amp and sub box!

love the ml but it is lacking the low end frequencies!
The ML is supoised to be an Audiophile system I.e how the producer intended you to hear it. Therefore it doesn't have the low frequencies you get from say, a boom box
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2016 | 10:37 PM
  #8  
macdee's Avatar
macdee
Driver
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 136
Likes: 13
From: Japan
Default

Originally Posted by rayaans
The ML is supoised to be an Audiophile system I.e how the producer intended you to hear it. Therefore it doesn't have the low frequencies you get from say, a boom box
Exactly! I just had to drive a standard audio system equipped 4RX for a day (mine is ML) and I can definitely say the sound felt more… immersive and rich vs my ML audio. So I kinda understand folks who would say ML doesn't sound very good.
The problem is… the "standard" sound is what a lot of people got used to (lots of bass, lots of mid-range). When they do get to listen to actual monitor-type sound systems, these do sound very flat to them. But spend some time with these "monitor" systems and you'll understand that all the "standard" systems just sound kind of… mushy? Like sound is coming through a pillow. Great bass, very "comfy" sound. But far, far from the "transparency" of "monitor" systems, which is indeed how the music is supposed to sound.

Now, it's really probably about sound preferences. But before judging "monitor" level systems, just spend some time with them, let your hearing to readjust. And you might just be surprised how many nuances your music might get in a week or so of that readjusting. Think about "bland" Japanese cousine as an example
I went through that myself, and was suggested just the above after I complained about the sound of my new Harman Kardon sound sticks to my musician friend
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2016 | 06:24 AM
  #9  
aznkorboi's Avatar
aznkorboi
Thread Starter
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,161
Likes: 117
From: ca
Default

Originally Posted by rayaans
The ML is supoised to be an Audiophile system I.e how the producer intended you to hear it. Therefore it doesn't have the low frequencies you get from say, a boom box
im glad this is how it SHOULD sound. i wish it had some more like the harmon and kardon on my dads mercedes. haha
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2016 | 06:26 AM
  #10  
aznkorboi's Avatar
aznkorboi
Thread Starter
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,161
Likes: 117
From: ca
Default

Originally Posted by macdee
Exactly! I just had to drive a standard audio system equipped 4RX for a day (mine is ML) and I can definitely say the sound felt more… immersive and rich vs my ML audio. So I kinda understand folks who would say ML doesn't sound very good.
The problem is… the "standard" sound is what a lot of people got used to (lots of bass, lots of mid-range). When they do get to listen to actual monitor-type sound systems, these do sound very flat to them. But spend some time with these "monitor" systems and you'll understand that all the "standard" systems just sound kind of… mushy? Like sound is coming through a pillow. Great bass, very "comfy" sound. But far, far from the "transparency" of "monitor" systems, which is indeed how the music is supposed to sound.

Now, it's really probably about sound preferences. But before judging "monitor" level systems, just spend some time with them, let your hearing to readjust. And you might just be surprised how many nuances your music might get in a week or so of that readjusting. Think about "bland" Japanese cousine as an example
I went through that myself, and was suggested just the above after I complained about the sound of my new Harman Kardon sound sticks to my musician friend
With time my ears will for sure get used to it.
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2016 | 05:35 PM
  #11  
AL13NV8D3R's Avatar
AL13NV8D3R
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,024
Likes: 39
From: Tennessee
Default

Everytime I take my GS in for service i get a Lexus loaner with premium audio. After listening to premium audio from 2014 IS 2015 RX and a 2015 CT. I can see why people prefer the premium audio. Premium audio is over boost mids and lows and really deviates from what the music artist really intended. The boosted sound is what most people are use to an immediate say when they hear it that it sounds very good. But as soon as you crank the volume to very loud, the audio quality takes a dive and sounds very distorted and muddy.

The Mark Levinson is clear at all volumes including at very high volumes. The sound and sound space does not change but actually get better as you increase the volume. If you listen to mark levinson at low to moderate levels it may not impress most people but once you crank it up it sounds much better than premium audio. I do agree that ML has very low bass. But I rather have low bass than terrible sound at high volumes. With the ML All i need to do is install and amp and subwoofer box and I am in audiophile bliss.
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2016 | 06:42 AM
  #12  
aznkorboi's Avatar
aznkorboi
Thread Starter
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,161
Likes: 117
From: ca
Default

Originally Posted by AL13NV8D3R
Everytime I take my GS in for service i get a Lexus loaner with premium audio. After listening to premium audio from 2014 IS 2015 RX and a 2015 CT. I can see why people prefer the premium audio. Premium audio is over boost mids and lows and really deviates from what the music artist really intended. The boosted sound is what most people are use to an immediate say when they hear it that it sounds very good. But as soon as you crank the volume to very loud, the audio quality takes a dive and sounds very distorted and muddy.

The Mark Levinson is clear at all volumes including at very high volumes. The sound and sound space does not change but actually get better as you increase the volume. If you listen to mark levinson at low to moderate levels it may not impress most people but once you crank it up it sounds much better than premium audio. I do agree that ML has very low bass. But I rather have low bass than terrible sound at high volumes. With the ML All i need to do is install and amp and subwoofer box and I am in audiophile bliss.
haha. I agree completely. That is literally all we need. I wonder if we have an amp and sub box if it would still connect to the OEM head unit and how would that work.. This is why I take it to the stereo guys haha. I wonder if we could swap out the 8 inch sub for another one?
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2016 | 08:04 AM
  #13  
offroad200's Avatar
offroad200
Instructor
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 903
Likes: 173
From: SC
Default

It also helps tremendously if you're listening to a high quality audio source. DVD audio will sound better than CD which will sound better than a standard MP3 etc. etc. etc.
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2016 | 08:15 AM
  #14  
Bearcat's Avatar
Bearcat
Lead Lap
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 759
Likes: 32
From: Nebraska
Default

Originally Posted by offroad200
It also helps tremendously if you're listening to a high quality audio source. DVD audio will sound better than CD which will sound better than a standard MP3 etc. etc. etc.
Can the new RX play DVD Audios?
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2016 | 04:31 AM
  #15  
bootman's Avatar
bootman
Advanced
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 505
Likes: 41
From: PA
Default

Originally Posted by Bearcat
Can the new RX play DVD Audios?
Not sure if it can play actuall DVD-A files but most concert DVDs also have a DTS track which it can play
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:25 AM.