awd and stagger?
11-04-10, 07:16 PM
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awd and stagger?
what's the verdict? has anyone done this before? my last awd i didn't stagger, but i've seen mixed reports. does anyone know the impact of doing this?
11-05-10, 05:06 AM
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I don't think staggering with AWD is a good idea.
BMW,Lexus etc stagger their sport model non AWD's but don't with the AWD's but I guess some other auto companies may.
I think driving on wet icy roads and snow would cause a problem.
BMW,Lexus etc stagger their sport model non AWD's but don't with the AWD's but I guess some other auto companies may.
I think driving on wet icy roads and snow would cause a problem.
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11-05-10, 06:30 AM
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i was looking at mrr h2s and they do 8.5x35. from what i've been reading the front should be flush and the rear off by around ~20mm?
11-05-10, 06:31 AM
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that's sort of what i did on my fx. still didn't stagger tho. the RX is the daily and i haul my wife and kids around in em. i'd hate for something unexpected to happen and i'm not around. i think i'm going to stay the same size all around.
i was looking at mrr h2s and the do 8.5x35
i was looking at mrr h2s and the do 8.5x35
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11-05-10, 08:40 AM
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like i said, as long as rolling diameter is close, no problem. awd is done by traction, nothing to do with width of tires. tons of audi quattro cars on staggered setup, never heard a problem. asked wheel expert before as well, not a problem. key is always on the diameter, if they are off much, then that's treated as "slip" causing the awd to overwork.
quite a few gs350awd with staggered never a problem. a few people got the wrong tires and immediate awd malfunction.
if in the snow, the wider tires in the back grab but the front don't (or vise versa), then it's the time for awd to kick in anyway?
quite a few gs350awd with staggered never a problem. a few people got the wrong tires and immediate awd malfunction.
if in the snow, the wider tires in the back grab but the front don't (or vise versa), then it's the time for awd to kick in anyway?
11-05-10, 08:47 AM
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like i said, as long as rolling diameter is close, no problem. awd is done by traction, nothing to do with width of tires. tons of audi quattro cars on staggered setup, never heard a problem. asked wheel expert before as well, not a problem. key is always on the diameter, if they are off much, then that's treated as "slip" causing the awd to overwork.
quite a few gs350awd with staggered never a problem. a few people got the wrong tires and immediate awd malfunction.
if in the snow, the wider tires in the back grab but the front don't (or vise versa), then it's the time for awd to kick in anyway?
quite a few gs350awd with staggered never a problem. a few people got the wrong tires and immediate awd malfunction.
if in the snow, the wider tires in the back grab but the front don't (or vise versa), then it's the time for awd to kick in anyway?
11-05-10, 08:49 AM
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like i said, as long as rolling diameter is close, no problem. awd is done by traction, nothing to do with width of tires. tons of audi quattro cars on staggered setup, never heard a problem. asked wheel expert before as well, not a problem. key is always on the diameter, if they are off much, then that's treated as "slip" causing the awd to overwork.
quite a few gs350awd with staggered never a problem. a few people got the wrong tires and immediate awd malfunction.
if in the snow, the wider tires in the back grab but the front don't (or vise versa), then it's the time for awd to kick in anyway?
quite a few gs350awd with staggered never a problem. a few people got the wrong tires and immediate awd malfunction.
if in the snow, the wider tires in the back grab but the front don't (or vise versa), then it's the time for awd to kick in anyway?
11-05-10, 11:31 AM
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for bmw, i can't find any information. bmwusa.com actually shows the same size tires on all their 3 series, and i can't seem to find any sport package info with staggered wheel setup.
if look at the industry, porsche awd on the 911 turbo with staggered wheel setup. lamborghini awd on their cars and staggered wheel setup. although awd system itself can be different, but the theory is the same. they base on slips to determine distribution of power. if the wheels aren't slipping, it doesn't matter on the width. at least that's how i understand it
11-05-10, 11:58 AM
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no one will ever be able to tell you the exact %, but for example, if you do 245/35/20 and 285/30/20 (this is setup for gs), you are totally fine. but someone accidentally did 245/30/20 and 285/30/20 and it triggers error right the way
joe, if you look on lexus website, for all is with staggered setup, the front and rear rolling diameters are not the same. the rear has larger rolling diameters compared to the front. i don't think lexus awd was ever offered with staggered setup
for bmw, i can't find any information. bmwusa.com actually shows the same size tires on all their 3 series, and i can't seem to find any sport package info with staggered wheel setup.
if look at the industry, porsche awd on the 911 turbo with staggered wheel setup. lamborghini awd on their cars and staggered wheel setup. although awd system itself can be different, but the theory is the same. they base on slips to determine distribution of power. if the wheels aren't slipping, it doesn't matter on the width. at least that's how i understand it
joe, if you look on lexus website, for all is with staggered setup, the front and rear rolling diameters are not the same. the rear has larger rolling diameters compared to the front. i don't think lexus awd was ever offered with staggered setup
for bmw, i can't find any information. bmwusa.com actually shows the same size tires on all their 3 series, and i can't seem to find any sport package info with staggered wheel setup.
if look at the industry, porsche awd on the 911 turbo with staggered wheel setup. lamborghini awd on their cars and staggered wheel setup. although awd system itself can be different, but the theory is the same. they base on slips to determine distribution of power. if the wheels aren't slipping, it doesn't matter on the width. at least that's how i understand it
