Philip HIR 9012 bulb
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Now shots of comparison.
This is taken in the garage with my cellphone cam.
pic 1 - left is 9012 and right is 9006(Exposure turned down to get rid of the reflection)
pic 2 - 9012 shine on my hand
pic 3 - 9006 shine on my hand
pic 4 - Both sides changed to 9012(Normal exposure)
pic 5 - Lowest exposure + foglights(9006) Can see the difference between 9006 under the 9012
This is taken in the garage with my cellphone cam.
pic 1 - left is 9012 and right is 9006(Exposure turned down to get rid of the reflection)
pic 2 - 9012 shine on my hand
pic 3 - 9006 shine on my hand
pic 4 - Both sides changed to 9012(Normal exposure)
pic 5 - Lowest exposure + foglights(9006) Can see the difference between 9006 under the 9012
Last edited by wing0; Dec 24, 2011 at 08:00 PM.
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Took some shots outside.
I had to change the white balance a bit as it was making the light look too white.
While these shots make the light look too yellow. Think of it as in between this and white...
1st pic - low beam
2nd pic - low beam + fog
3rd pic - low + high beam
4th pic - low beam
5th pic - low + high beam
Overall, this does give out more light. Using this chart: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ulb_types.html
HIR2 is 1870 vs the regular 9006 in the car which is like to be 1000 when new.
It's not exactly 100% better lights, but I would have to say it's about 1.5 times better than when it was new.
This is basically putting a 9005 bulb(which you could modify and overdrive the lowbeam harness) into the 9006 socket. Except, the expected life of HIR2 is around 1400hrs compared to like 300 hrs on 9005.
Before, I would feel there is not enough light and had to turn on foglights to help a little.
Now, with just these lights, it shines farther, wider in front of the car.
I just hope they'll last as long as they claimed to be.
I had to change the white balance a bit as it was making the light look too white.
While these shots make the light look too yellow. Think of it as in between this and white...
1st pic - low beam
2nd pic - low beam + fog
3rd pic - low + high beam
4th pic - low beam
5th pic - low + high beam
Overall, this does give out more light. Using this chart: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ulb_types.html
HIR2 is 1870 vs the regular 9006 in the car which is like to be 1000 when new.
It's not exactly 100% better lights, but I would have to say it's about 1.5 times better than when it was new.
This is basically putting a 9005 bulb(which you could modify and overdrive the lowbeam harness) into the 9006 socket. Except, the expected life of HIR2 is around 1400hrs compared to like 300 hrs on 9005.
Before, I would feel there is not enough light and had to turn on foglights to help a little.
Now, with just these lights, it shines farther, wider in front of the car.
I just hope they'll last as long as they claimed to be.
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I found this on a google search. I had never heard of them before.
"THE BEST ALTERNATIVE TO HID
Want to get great illumination without extra heat, wiring upgrades, relays, transformers, and blue tint? Want to SEE better at night instead of HEARING a bunch of dubious chatter about xenon-filled, over-wattage, blue-tinted bling-bling bulbs that are supposedly "just like HIDs"? Want a bulb where you can have a simple swap into a 9005 or 9006 socket and maintain the correct filament placement for a perfect light pattern, instead of causing glare and scattered, diffused light? Want to save hundreds of dollars over the cost of retrofitting an illegal, bootleg HID system? Then you want these Halogen Infrared Reflecting bulbs.
These HIR bulbs are a unique product, the only bulbs available that use the research technology that General Electric patented in 2000 (patent number 6,087,775). It was GE's goal to create a bulb that produced 75% of the light output of HID headlights at 25% of the cost. GE sells HIR bulbs for residential lighting and specialized projectors, but decided to stay out of the automotive market and licensed this technology to a division of Toshiba. In fact, Toshiba and GE are among the few companies in the world with the expertise to engineer and build this product. These bulbs attain light levels 75% to 110% brighter than stock as a result of an engineering process that deposits multiple, yet almost invisible, layers of semi-reflective coating on the surface of a specially shaped quartz bulb. This coating ( a titania/silica, zinc oxide/silica, zirconia/silica, silicon nitride/silica, and titania/magnesium fluoride tantalam/silica multi-layer dielectric, according to the patent) reflects a portion of the infrared energy emitted by the filament back onto the filament, causing it to glow brighter and emit more light from the uncoated forward portion of the bulb. Although the filament gets hotter, the glass does not. IT GENERATES NO MORE HEAT THAN A REGULAR HALOGEN BULB, AND IT DRAWS THE SAME WATTAGE AND AMPERAGE AS THE STOCK 9006 BULB IT REPLACES "
"THE BEST ALTERNATIVE TO HID
Want to get great illumination without extra heat, wiring upgrades, relays, transformers, and blue tint? Want to SEE better at night instead of HEARING a bunch of dubious chatter about xenon-filled, over-wattage, blue-tinted bling-bling bulbs that are supposedly "just like HIDs"? Want a bulb where you can have a simple swap into a 9005 or 9006 socket and maintain the correct filament placement for a perfect light pattern, instead of causing glare and scattered, diffused light? Want to save hundreds of dollars over the cost of retrofitting an illegal, bootleg HID system? Then you want these Halogen Infrared Reflecting bulbs.
These HIR bulbs are a unique product, the only bulbs available that use the research technology that General Electric patented in 2000 (patent number 6,087,775). It was GE's goal to create a bulb that produced 75% of the light output of HID headlights at 25% of the cost. GE sells HIR bulbs for residential lighting and specialized projectors, but decided to stay out of the automotive market and licensed this technology to a division of Toshiba. In fact, Toshiba and GE are among the few companies in the world with the expertise to engineer and build this product. These bulbs attain light levels 75% to 110% brighter than stock as a result of an engineering process that deposits multiple, yet almost invisible, layers of semi-reflective coating on the surface of a specially shaped quartz bulb. This coating ( a titania/silica, zinc oxide/silica, zirconia/silica, silicon nitride/silica, and titania/magnesium fluoride tantalam/silica multi-layer dielectric, according to the patent) reflects a portion of the infrared energy emitted by the filament back onto the filament, causing it to glow brighter and emit more light from the uncoated forward portion of the bulb. Although the filament gets hotter, the glass does not. IT GENERATES NO MORE HEAT THAN A REGULAR HALOGEN BULB, AND IT DRAWS THE SAME WATTAGE AND AMPERAGE AS THE STOCK 9006 BULB IT REPLACES "
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75% to 110% brighter means it is 175% to 210% the brightness of a 9006 bulb.
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Alright, just finished installing my Phillips HIR 9011/9012 bulbs.
Just gotta wait now until the sun goes down to test these out (currently 5:46pm EST in VA)
I tried to reach for the fog lights but they seem like a pain in the ***. It's hard to fit my hand through everything. Also, I noticed a screw on the fog lights, am I supposed to remove that when replacing the fog light bulb?
Just gotta wait now until the sun goes down to test these out (currently 5:46pm EST in VA)
I tried to reach for the fog lights but they seem like a pain in the ***. It's hard to fit my hand through everything. Also, I noticed a screw on the fog lights, am I supposed to remove that when replacing the fog light bulb?
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Alright, just finished installing my Phillips HIR 9011/9012 bulbs.
Just gotta wait now until the sun goes down to test these out (currently 5:46pm EST in VA)
I tried to reach for the fog lights but they seem like a pain in the ***. It's hard to fit my hand through everything. Also, I noticed a screw on the fog lights, am I supposed to remove that when replacing the fog light bulb?
Just gotta wait now until the sun goes down to test these out (currently 5:46pm EST in VA)
I tried to reach for the fog lights but they seem like a pain in the ***. It's hard to fit my hand through everything. Also, I noticed a screw on the fog lights, am I supposed to remove that when replacing the fog light bulb?
Also, nobody mentioned about the screws, so I assume that can stay. Just unplug the wire from the bulb and then twist to take it out just like the lowbeam.
Good luck.
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HIR High Beam bulbs and Daytime Running Lamps
Has anyone noticed any compatibility issues in their DTR's after replacing their high beam bulbs with HIR replacement bulbs?
Did they cause a change in the daytime (dimmed) high beams, or do they work similarly to the original high beams at half brightness (U.S / Calif car)?
I have one high beam bulb burned out, so it's time to replace them both with something better. But at the same time, the DTR's (the good side) stopped working.... I guess/hope it's just because the dimmed system doesn't work with only one bulb working, but perhaps I shouldn't risk expensive replacements if there's something else wrong. Ideas about DRL's & burned out bulbs, and DRL's and compatibility with HIR bulb swaps?
Did they cause a change in the daytime (dimmed) high beams, or do they work similarly to the original high beams at half brightness (U.S / Calif car)?
I have one high beam bulb burned out, so it's time to replace them both with something better. But at the same time, the DTR's (the good side) stopped working.... I guess/hope it's just because the dimmed system doesn't work with only one bulb working, but perhaps I shouldn't risk expensive replacements if there's something else wrong. Ideas about DRL's & burned out bulbs, and DRL's and compatibility with HIR bulb swaps?
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Since I didn't replace the high beam with HIR. I can't comment on how they would do. Rather I wanted to ask if you use high beam a lot or not. If you use it maybe less than 10% in night time driving. IMO its not really worth the extra cost. You should just stick with 9005 bulbs. Unless you really want the extra brightness.
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Yeah, I should have said high beam performance is really important. Not only is DRL a safety issue for me for the driving I do, night vision is really important, too.
I do drive often on dark, winding, high desert 2 lane undivided highway where high beams are needed to see deer, debris, and lots of other hazards like just plain stupid... at night. so yes, both high and low beam performance, and high beam is employed day and night. High beams are worth changing/upgrading even though the stock halogen RX300 lights are really quite good, there's always room for improvement if it's available and cost-effective.
Thanks for your reply WingO
I do drive often on dark, winding, high desert 2 lane undivided highway where high beams are needed to see deer, debris, and lots of other hazards like just plain stupid... at night. so yes, both high and low beam performance, and high beam is employed day and night. High beams are worth changing/upgrading even though the stock halogen RX300 lights are really quite good, there's always room for improvement if it's available and cost-effective.
Thanks for your reply WingO