Looked at a GS F...
03-04-16, 09:25 PM
#46
It's an F brand identity issue really. The only 'F' car to compete outright with an M car was the IS-F - it matched the E9x M3 specs very well. Now the true F cars compete with M Sport models, yet are still compared to the M cars. Lexus has failed in creating a brand identity and their sales figures versus MSRP reflects that.
the gsf is a different story though
03-06-16, 08:10 AM
#47
I haven't bought the RC-F because of the weight penalty for a 2 door coupe, not only that, for a 5L V8, the IS-F, RC-F and GS-F lacks the low end grunt compared to my 2005 LS430., That's why Lexus is failing to sell more F Performance cars. They detune the motor below 4k so that moron's can't wrap their cars around trees like Mustang/Vette owners which kills the point of buying a high performance car. The LS's have more fun factor when you do your own coil-over setup's and Ironcally, all the people that I refered to Lexus end up buying the LS because the power delivery in addition to the Luxury amenities.
03-06-16, 08:39 PM
#48
Lexus Test Driver
I haven't bought the RC-F because of the weight penalty for a 2 door coupe, not only that, for a 5L V8, the IS-F, RC-F and GS-F lacks the low end grunt compared to my 2005 LS430., That's why Lexus is failing to sell more F Performance cars. They detune the motor below 4k so that moron's can't wrap their cars around trees like Mustang/Vette owners which kills the point of buying a high performance car. The LS's have more fun factor when you do your own coil-over setup's and Ironcally, all the people that I refered to Lexus end up buying the LS because the power delivery in addition to the Luxury amenities.
03-06-16, 09:31 PM
#49
Intermediate
03-06-16, 09:55 PM
#50
I haven't bought the RC-F because of the weight penalty for a 2 door coupe, not only that, for a 5L V8, the IS-F, RC-F and GS-F lacks the low end grunt compared to my 2005 LS430., That's why Lexus is failing to sell more F Performance cars. They detune the motor below 4k so that moron's can't wrap their cars around trees like Mustang/Vette owners which kills the point of buying a high performance car. The LS's have more fun factor when you do your own coil-over setup's and Ironcally, all the people that I refered to Lexus end up buying the LS because the power delivery in addition to the Luxury amenities.
Lou
03-06-16, 09:56 PM
#51
I haven't bought the RC-F because of the weight penalty for a 2 door coupe, not only that, for a 5L V8, the IS-F, RC-F and GS-F lacks the low end grunt compared to my 2005 LS430., That's why Lexus is failing to sell more F Performance cars. They detune the motor below 4k so that moron's can't wrap their cars around trees like Mustang/Vette owners which kills the point of buying a high performance car. The LS's have more fun factor when you do your own coil-over setup's and Ironcally, all the people that I refered to Lexus end up buying the LS because the power delivery in addition to the Luxury amenities.
03-09-16, 06:40 AM
#53
All top race cars have huge TQ and lower HP and that's how they win right 
Oh and the Mclaren only has 400 TQ they should get the LS430 too is my guess?
http://www.cnet.com/roadshow/videos/...wer-vs-torque/
Never go full retard.
Oh and the Mclaren only has 400 TQ they should get the LS430 too is my guess?http://www.cnet.com/roadshow/videos/...wer-vs-torque/
Never go full retard.
Last edited by Ryanmcd; 03-09-16 at 06:44 AM.
03-11-16, 03:51 PM
#54
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That was one of the dumbest hp vs. torque discussions I have seen in a long time. I want my 4:32 back.
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