Manual Mode stuck in 5th
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Manual Mode stuck in 5th
Hey guys,
I have only driven my car a handful of times, but I noticed the past two times, that it sticks in 5th gear during the time that the oil temperature finally gets above the 1/4 mark until it finally settles.
It doesn't stick before reaching the quarter mark, and as far as I can tell, it doesn't stick in auto mode.
This doesn't sound like something that should be normal, but what say you?
I have only driven my car a handful of times, but I noticed the past two times, that it sticks in 5th gear during the time that the oil temperature finally gets above the 1/4 mark until it finally settles.
It doesn't stick before reaching the quarter mark, and as far as I can tell, it doesn't stick in auto mode.
This doesn't sound like something that should be normal, but what say you?
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Hey guys,
I have only driven my car a handful of times, but I noticed the past two times, that it sticks in 5th gear during the time that the oil temperature finally gets above the 1/4 mark until it finally settles.
It doesn't stick before reaching the quarter mark, and as far as I can tell, it doesn't stick in auto mode.
This doesn't sound like something that should be normal, but what say you?
I have only driven my car a handful of times, but I noticed the past two times, that it sticks in 5th gear during the time that the oil temperature finally gets above the 1/4 mark until it finally settles.
It doesn't stick before reaching the quarter mark, and as far as I can tell, it doesn't stick in auto mode.
This doesn't sound like something that should be normal, but what say you?
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I always drive in manual mode (no reason not to), hot or cold. Could you explain exactly what's happening? Stuck is one thing. Not going beyond 5th is another. Which one is it? Another thing: sport+ doesn't let you shift beyond 5th or 6th until certain speeds. And I don't like that. But now that I did the intake mod, don't drive in sport+ anymore since the shifts are equally fast (up and down) in sport when in manual mode (what I always use). Try using just sport when cold. Then switch to sport+ after reaching operating temp if you want. If you CANNOT downshift out of 5th gear, then you have a problem. But doubt that's the case. Let us know.
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The Manual specifically tells you NOT to do this while stile "Cold" 
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I always drive in manual mode (no reason not to), hot or cold. Could you explain exactly what's happening? Stuck is one thing. Not going beyond 5th is another. Which one is it? Another thing: sport+ doesn't let you shift beyond 5th or 6th until certain speeds. And I don't like that. But now that I did the intake mod, don't drive in sport+ anymore since the shifts are equally fast (up and down) in sport when in manual mode (what I always use). Try using just sport when cold. Then switch to sport+ after reaching operating temp if you want. If you CANNOT downshift out of 5th gear, then you have a problem. But doubt that's the case. Let us know.
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What page? Curious to see what it says. Don't remember reading anything when I read the entire manual. But even if it says something, it'd be assuming you'd drive like an a$$ in manual mode. I don't, and will continue to do it that way... and nothing will happen
. The tranny changes gears when cold; it doesn't matter if by itself or by you. Gear changes are lethargic as hell when cold, auto or manual, so makes no difference. The converter doesn't start locking until tranny temp is up, and you're more aggressive with the throttle and rpm. With electronic controls, you're not going to do any damage to the drivetrain on this car, especially if you take it easy... but to each his own.
. The tranny changes gears when cold; it doesn't matter if by itself or by you. Gear changes are lethargic as hell when cold, auto or manual, so makes no difference. The converter doesn't start locking until tranny temp is up, and you're more aggressive with the throttle and rpm. With electronic controls, you're not going to do any damage to the drivetrain on this car, especially if you take it easy... but to each his own.
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Yeah, I meant won't go into 6th gear.
I know about the speed limitations.
Anyway, I will do as JoeZ suggests. It is not like you can have any fun with the car before it warms up anyway.
Thanks for the info.
I know about the speed limitations.
Anyway, I will do as JoeZ suggests. It is not like you can have any fun with the car before it warms up anyway.
Thanks for the info.
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THAT makes more sense, and it's perfectly normal, especially in sport+. Just like not being able to exceed the reduced rpm redline when oil is still cold. My car behaves perfectly in manual mode, but again, I'm not aggressive when engine is cold. The tranny changes gears exactly the same way whether by itself or manually. That's the beauty of smart electronic control
. But JoeZ can drive it in reverse if he wants.
. But JoeZ can drive it in reverse if he wants.
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THAT makes more sense, and it's perfectly normal, especially in sport+. Just like not being able to exceed the reduced rpm redline when oil is still cold. My car behaves perfectly in manual mode, but again, I'm not aggressive when engine is cold. The tranny changes gears exactly the same way whether by itself or manually. That's the beauty of smart electronic control. But JoeZ can drive it in reverse if he wants.
. But JoeZ can drive it in reverse if he wants.
Anywho, Manual Mode driving / shifting is limited (useless) for the first 5 mins from a COLD start..
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Shouldn't this just be COMMON Sense
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