RC F’s main competitors
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RC F’s main competitors
And then there was one…competitor.
C&D confirmed the Mercedes C63 S (4.0L biturbo V8) 2023 model year was the last year for the coupe version. For 2024, a sedan will be offered, just not the coupe. Not sure what to make of this axe, and while I have never driven one, based on reviews, the C63 S coupe is/was a serious car.
That leaves BMW’s M4 (throw in the M2 in the mix) as the main competitor to the RC F (similar price point, performance luxury coupes).
The M4 has already made recent headlines about the model year 2025 with plenty of updates. It will come in 3 trims, 473HP (base, RWD, manual), 503HP (Competition, Automatic), 523HP (AWD).
It is very interesting that the base M4 began making 473HP beginning with the model year 2021. This was not by accident, I am fairly certain BMW engineers were tasked with making the turbo engine finally surpass the RC F’s 472HP output. Yes only by +1HP, but it’s really BMW sticking it to Lexus that they now have a more powerful HP output on paper, after the RC F reigned supreme in HP output from 2015-2020.
C&D confirmed the Mercedes C63 S (4.0L biturbo V8) 2023 model year was the last year for the coupe version. For 2024, a sedan will be offered, just not the coupe. Not sure what to make of this axe, and while I have never driven one, based on reviews, the C63 S coupe is/was a serious car.
That leaves BMW’s M4 (throw in the M2 in the mix) as the main competitor to the RC F (similar price point, performance luxury coupes).
The M4 has already made recent headlines about the model year 2025 with plenty of updates. It will come in 3 trims, 473HP (base, RWD, manual), 503HP (Competition, Automatic), 523HP (AWD).
It is very interesting that the base M4 began making 473HP beginning with the model year 2021. This was not by accident, I am fairly certain BMW engineers were tasked with making the turbo engine finally surpass the RC F’s 472HP output. Yes only by +1HP, but it’s really BMW sticking it to Lexus that they now have a more powerful HP output on paper, after the RC F reigned supreme in HP output from 2015-2020.
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And then there was one…competitor.
C&D confirmed the Mercedes C63 S (4.0L biturbo V8) 2023 model year was the last year for the coupe version. For 2024, a sedan will be offered, just not the coupe. Not sure what to make of this axe, and while I have never driven one, based on reviews, the C63 S coupe is/was a serious car.
That leaves BMW’s M4 (throw in the M2 in the mix) as the main competitor to the RC F (similar price point, performance luxury coupes).
The M4 has already made recent headlines about the model year 2025 with plenty of updates. It will come in 3 trims, 473HP (base, RWD, manual), 503HP (Competition, Automatic), 523HP (AWD).
It is very interesting that the base M4 began making 473HP beginning with the model year 2021. This was not by accident, I am fairly certain BMW engineers were tasked with making the turbo engine finally surpass the RC F’s 472HP output. Yes only by +1HP, but it’s really BMW sticking it to Lexus that they now have a more powerful HP output on paper, after the RC F reigned supreme in HP output from 2015-2020.
C&D confirmed the Mercedes C63 S (4.0L biturbo V8) 2023 model year was the last year for the coupe version. For 2024, a sedan will be offered, just not the coupe. Not sure what to make of this axe, and while I have never driven one, based on reviews, the C63 S coupe is/was a serious car.
That leaves BMW’s M4 (throw in the M2 in the mix) as the main competitor to the RC F (similar price point, performance luxury coupes).
The M4 has already made recent headlines about the model year 2025 with plenty of updates. It will come in 3 trims, 473HP (base, RWD, manual), 503HP (Competition, Automatic), 523HP (AWD).
It is very interesting that the base M4 began making 473HP beginning with the model year 2021. This was not by accident, I am fairly certain BMW engineers were tasked with making the turbo engine finally surpass the RC F’s 472HP output. Yes only by +1HP, but it’s really BMW sticking it to Lexus that they now have a more powerful HP output on paper, after the RC F reigned supreme in HP output from 2015-2020.
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And then there was one…competitor.
C&D confirmed the Mercedes C63 S (4.0L biturbo V8) 2023 model year was the last year for the coupe version. For 2024, a sedan will be offered, just not the coupe. Not sure what to make of this axe, and while I have never driven one, based on reviews, the C63 S coupe is/was a serious car.
That leaves BMW’s M4 (throw in the M2 in the mix) as the main competitor to the RC F (similar price point, performance luxury coupes).
The M4 has already made recent headlines about the model year 2025 with plenty of updates. It will come in 3 trims, 473HP (base, RWD, manual), 503HP (Competition, Automatic), 523HP (AWD).
It is very interesting that the base M4 began making 473HP beginning with the model year 2021. This was not by accident, I am fairly certain BMW engineers were tasked with making the turbo engine finally surpass the RC F’s 472HP output. Yes only by +1HP, but it’s really BMW sticking it to Lexus that they now have a more powerful HP output on paper, after the RC F reigned supreme in HP output from 2015-2020.
C&D confirmed the Mercedes C63 S (4.0L biturbo V8) 2023 model year was the last year for the coupe version. For 2024, a sedan will be offered, just not the coupe. Not sure what to make of this axe, and while I have never driven one, based on reviews, the C63 S coupe is/was a serious car.
That leaves BMW’s M4 (throw in the M2 in the mix) as the main competitor to the RC F (similar price point, performance luxury coupes).
The M4 has already made recent headlines about the model year 2025 with plenty of updates. It will come in 3 trims, 473HP (base, RWD, manual), 503HP (Competition, Automatic), 523HP (AWD).
It is very interesting that the base M4 began making 473HP beginning with the model year 2021. This was not by accident, I am fairly certain BMW engineers were tasked with making the turbo engine finally surpass the RC F’s 472HP output. Yes only by +1HP, but it’s really BMW sticking it to Lexus that they now have a more powerful HP output on paper, after the RC F reigned supreme in HP output from 2015-2020.
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Good post. I do see AMG variants CLE 53 and CLE 63 with some serious performance numbers. As for Audi, totally forgot about them. Probably just a personal bias as I have no interest in ever owning an Audi vehicle.
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And then there was one…competitor.
C&D confirmed the Mercedes C63 S (4.0L biturbo V8) 2023 model year was the last year for the coupe version. For 2024, a sedan will be offered, just not the coupe. Not sure what to make of this axe, and while I have never driven one, based on reviews, the C63 S coupe is/was a serious car.
That leaves BMW’s M4 (throw in the M2 in the mix) as the main competitor to the RC F (similar price point, performance luxury coupes).
The M4 has already made recent headlines about the model year 2025 with plenty of updates. It will come in 3 trims, 473HP (base, RWD, manual), 503HP (Competition, Automatic), 523HP (AWD).
It is very interesting that the base M4 began making 473HP beginning with the model year 2021. This was not by accident, I am fairly certain BMW engineers were tasked with making the turbo engine finally surpass the RC F’s 472HP output. Yes only by +1HP, but it’s really BMW sticking it to Lexus that they now have a more powerful HP output on paper, after the RC F reigned supreme in HP output from 2015-2020.
C&D confirmed the Mercedes C63 S (4.0L biturbo V8) 2023 model year was the last year for the coupe version. For 2024, a sedan will be offered, just not the coupe. Not sure what to make of this axe, and while I have never driven one, based on reviews, the C63 S coupe is/was a serious car.
That leaves BMW’s M4 (throw in the M2 in the mix) as the main competitor to the RC F (similar price point, performance luxury coupes).
The M4 has already made recent headlines about the model year 2025 with plenty of updates. It will come in 3 trims, 473HP (base, RWD, manual), 503HP (Competition, Automatic), 523HP (AWD).
It is very interesting that the base M4 began making 473HP beginning with the model year 2021. This was not by accident, I am fairly certain BMW engineers were tasked with making the turbo engine finally surpass the RC F’s 472HP output. Yes only by +1HP, but it’s really BMW sticking it to Lexus that they now have a more powerful HP output on paper, after the RC F reigned supreme in HP output from 2015-2020.
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The E92 M3 and I’ll die on that hill. In all seriousness the f82 M4, RS5, and probably the C63 AMG, but the F is outclassesd by pretty much every car in its class unfortunately. BMW also typically underrate their cars by a fairly wide margin
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It is very interesting that the base M4 began making 473HP beginning with the model year 2021. This was not by accident, I am fairly certain BMW engineers were tasked with making the turbo engine finally surpass the RC F’s 472HP output. Yes only by +1HP, but it’s really BMW sticking it to Lexus that they now have a more powerful HP output on paper, after the RC F reigned supreme in HP output from 2015-2020.
The same exact M4 against an E92 M3 and GT350
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I enjoyed this review by Bros Fourr Speed. As they point out in the video, they have way more seat time in BMWs than V8 Lexus. The way these cars are optioned from a price point are pretty even. New 2024 M4 comps have MSRPs over $100k which puts it right there with the TE.
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I enjoyed this review by Bros Fourr Speed. As they point out in the video, they have way more seat time in BMWs than V8 Lexus. The way these cars are optioned from a price point are pretty even. New 2024 M4 comps have MSRPs over $100k which puts it right there with the TE.
BMW M4 Competition VS Lexus RCF Fuji Edition! What’s The Better $85,000 Sportscar?
BMW M4 Competition VS Lexus RCF Fuji Edition! What’s The Better $85,000 Sportscar?
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Saw it before. Pretty useless review when you can clearly hear the RCF TE was not properly warmed up. Listen the lag in the shifts, which means the transmission is still cold in limp mode as Lexus detunes the transmission until the transmission is fully warmed up. That is, if they had it in the SPORT+
Still cool to see the Fuji and M4 comp side by side in factory blue paint schemes.
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Agree, the G82 is a better car in every way...and it should be since its a newer platform. I also believe the RCF was in Sport + by the noise in the cabin, its a lot quieter in Normal mode.
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Before I get accused of fanboism, my own videos illustrate the evidence of what I am talking about.
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I wasnt aware that the TE wasn't equipped with ASC . In the comments of his video's he confirmed it was Sport +, I don't think he has any reason to lie. In any case, nothing he said in the video was inaccurate the G82 is superior in just about ever category (styling is subjective). Its also a newer platform so its not really a completely fair comparison.
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I wasnt aware that the TE wasn't equipped with ASC . In the comments of his video's he confirmed it was Sport +, I don't think he has any reason to lie. In any case, nothing he said in the video was inaccurate the G82 is superior in just about ever category (styling is subjective). Its also a newer platform so its not really a completely fair comparison.
However, the competitors have moved on, but RCF is essentially now a generation older than the G-series. It is expected through advancements in technology and engineering, G-series M4 is the better performance car than the RCF.
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