Official Lexus RC thread
Not sure if you guys saw this post, but the RC was spotted in LA https://www.clublexus.com/forums/lex...ml#post8106881
Hopefully we'll see more shots of the car soon
Hopefully we'll see more shots of the car soon
BMW and the rest of the German companies are notorious for setting lower "base price" on their cars because every little thing is an option. A comparable optioned M3 is always higher than an ISF.
what we are saying is the loaded price is what's relevant. If two fully loaded cars have the exact same price, no one cares what the base prices were. No one buys a base car, every car comes with options these days.
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A Lexus base car =/= BMW base car
If comparing feature lists, I'm willing to bet an RC-F will be cheaper than an M4 when both have equal options.
What I and many posters are trying to say is that a base RC-F may be perfectly acceptable to drive off the dealer's lot due to its generous standard features while a "base" M4 will be a figment of the imagination since it will be so under-equipped no sane person would buy it in real life without first tacking on $10K worth of "optional" equipment.
Optional equipment like air-conditioning, steering wheel,brakes etc ( just kidding but you get my point....)
Last edited by natnut; Aug 25, 2013 at 07:11 PM.
Agreed. And Lexus "base" cars tend to come with many options already built-in as standard features.
A Lexus base car =/= BMW base car
If comparing feature lists, I'm willing to bet an RC-F will be cheaper than an M4 when both have equal options.
What I and many posters are trying to say is that a base RC-F may be perfectly acceptable to drive off the dealer's lot due to its generous standard features while a "base" M4 will be a figment of the imagination since it will be so under-equipped no sane person would buy it in real life without first tacking on $10K worth of "optional" equipment.
Optional equipment like air-conditioning, steering wheel,brakes etc ( just kidding but you get my point....)
A Lexus base car =/= BMW base car
If comparing feature lists, I'm willing to bet an RC-F will be cheaper than an M4 when both have equal options.
What I and many posters are trying to say is that a base RC-F may be perfectly acceptable to drive off the dealer's lot due to its generous standard features while a "base" M4 will be a figment of the imagination since it will be so under-equipped no sane person would buy it in real life without first tacking on $10K worth of "optional" equipment.
Optional equipment like air-conditioning, steering wheel,brakes etc ( just kidding but you get my point....)
i suppose then it depends on how you define "sane".
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there are those BMW M enthusiasts/purists who would rather do without the extra weight that comes with creature comforts to eek out that extra bit of performance, seeing as to how the chances of them taking their M cars to the track are high and likely (or at least brag about how spartan their M car is and how marginally faster their M is). a very small handful and definitely not a generous portion of the BMW owner population, but they do exist.
i suppose then it depends on how you define "sane".
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i suppose then it depends on how you define "sane".
$0.02.
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pretty hypothetical discussion since...
bmw dealers are likely to only have one m4 on the lot, and it will not be 'base'.
lexus dealers never have base vehicles on the lot (don't blame them).
in singapore, one will be $250k and the other will be $270k, so maybe it doesn't matter. 
bmw dealers are likely to only have one m4 on the lot, and it will not be 'base'.
lexus dealers never have base vehicles on the lot (don't blame them).
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pretty hypothetical discussion since...
bmw dealers are likely to only have one m4 on the lot, and it will not be 'base'.
lexus dealers never have base vehicles on the lot (don't blame them).
in singapore, one will be $250k and the other will be $270k, so maybe it doesn't matter.
bmw dealers are likely to only have one m4 on the lot, and it will not be 'base'.
lexus dealers never have base vehicles on the lot (don't blame them).
in singapore, one will be $250k and the other will be $270k, so maybe it doesn't matter.
Last edited by natnut; Aug 26, 2013 at 05:52 AM.
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Of course no one buys a base car. My point is that if Lexus announces a base price of $71k, we as buyers are looking at a car that could easily be over $80k with options. But if Lexus announces that the RC-F will be in the $71k range with options, that looks a lot more attractive. BIG DIFFERENCE!
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Of course no one buys a base car. My point is that if Lexus announces a base price of $71k, we as buyers are looking at a car that could easily be over $80k with options. But if Lexus announces that the RC-F will be in the $71k range with options, that looks a lot more attractive. BIG DIFFERENCE!
So a RC F starting around 71k sounds about right. A loaded IS F is around 66k.
The only thing that could change is Lexus starts pricing super aggressive since the Yen is trading more favorably. I don't think that is going to happen.
Heck a loaded Lexus IS is over 50k today. Prices have crept up significantly.
+1 My 2008 GS350 was fully loaded, minus a few rare options. And I remember I got it new for $45,500... The 13' GS350 that I got now was $67,800. So the prices are definitely going up...
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Difference between fully loaded IS-F and base one is not that big... with Germans, difference is much larger, so thats why "base" price really doesnt tell us anything at the end.
