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Old Mar 5, 2017 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Nuke
ALLOT and ALLOT of throttle limiting on the ECU level
Yes. One of the many reasons I will be going with a flash tune.
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Old Mar 5, 2017 | 08:35 PM
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TOM'S Racing Japan
+21.34 WHP
+29.68 WTQ



Burger Motorsports USA (BMS)
+22.81 WHP
+30.8 WTQ
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Old Mar 5, 2017 | 08:59 PM
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well...for a lease car i guess the burger is the way to go.
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Old Mar 5, 2017 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gbgary
well...for a lease car i guess the burger is the way to go.
Both tunes are very similar with power gains but the BMS just makes a higher peak torque which makes it a more aggressive tune. Both should be around the $450-$500 range whereas a reflash would cost close to $1000 or more so i would definitely recommend these for a leased car
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 03:22 AM
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Question : Why the curve for TOM's start at around 2700 t/mn? For BMS we can perfectely compare the curve with and without which appears not the case with TOM's.What appens before 2700??
With these curves (TOM's) we note that power is same at 3300 t/mn but really inferior before. Could you explain how to understand the curves? Thanks
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Pacific13
Question : Why the curve for TOM's start at around 2700 t/mn? For BMS we can perfectely compare the curve with and without which appears not the case with TOM's.What appens before 2700??
With these curves (TOM's) we note that power is same at 3300 t/mn but really inferior before. Could you explain how to understand the curves? Thanks
WOT were at different RPM's on the dyno but as you can see both piggybacks did what they claimed on power increases (20+ HP, 30+ TQ) . Due to an accelerator delay that is present on these cars we are looking at power gains over 3000 RPMS and they both did exceptionally well over stock.
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 06:18 AM
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Thanks Sheddy for all the testing you are doing!!! Accelerator delay sucks...also dangerous!! Need a group complaint to Lexus Corp...if does any good?? LOL!
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mcarter45
Thanks Sheddy for all the testing you are doing!!! Accelerator delay sucks...also dangerous!! Need a group complaint to Lexus Corp...if does any good?? LOL!
Most welcome! I've been looking into these piggyback systems so its only right that i give some feedback! Yes the accelerator delay is highly annoying and i will be down to make a group complaint but im pretty sure Toyota have their reasoning for this issue.
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 09:45 AM
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I think that throttle delay, if true (appears it is) is so the 200t doesn't step on the 350's toes too much. Or completely crush them. LOL
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 09:49 AM
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ok how do we get this tom's tuner. link?
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by E46CT
I think that throttle delay, if true (appears it is) is so the 200t doesn't step on the 350's toes too much. Or completely crush them. LOL
My thoughts exactly lol. I sure am making more torque than a 350!
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheddy
My thoughts exactly lol. I sure am making more torque than a 350!
Alpha re-flash and I also am making more torque than 350. I'm completely willing to join in on the accelerator delay group complaint!
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mcarter45
Thanks Sheddy for all the testing you are doing!!! Accelerator delay sucks...also dangerous!! Need a group complaint to Lexus Corp...if does any good?? LOL!
Where do I sign up?
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MasonGrey
Alpha re-flash and I also am making more torque than 350. I'm completely willing to join in on the accelerator delay group complaint!
Nice! Did you dyno the car with the alpha tune?
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheddy
Nice! Did you dyno the car with the alpha tune?
it was discussed a few pages back, but I'm not allowed to post numbers nor photos of the dyno graph because the re-flash is still being developed
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