Good sound, but no in-cabin drone mutually exclusive?
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Good sound, but no in-cabin drone mutually exclusive?
So looking at exhausts. In the past I've had Magnaflows on my Accord v6, and even Tanabe Medallion on my S2000... both chosen specifically because they were known to have good sound (not too loud) but more importantly for me, no drone. I do a lot of highway driving and to hear that buzzing in your ear after hours 2 or 3 gets old real quick.
That said, I'm looking at both options here on clublexus for the IS350, but consensus seems to be that they're TOO quiet.
I really like the sound of the Joe-Z axle backs, but can't get a clear answer on how bad the interior drone is.
So my question out there is, if any of you have heard multiple exhausts in person before... whats got the best sound on the outside but cuts down the drone on the inside?
That said, I'm looking at both options here on clublexus for the IS350, but consensus seems to be that they're TOO quiet.
I really like the sound of the Joe-Z axle backs, but can't get a clear answer on how bad the interior drone is.
So my question out there is, if any of you have heard multiple exhausts in person before... whats got the best sound on the outside but cuts down the drone on the inside?
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These Japanese V6s have some degree of drone no matter if you go axle back or cat back. My Tanabe lightly drones (more like a deep hum) up until 3,500 RPM as does the F Sport Axle back, and those are the two quietest exhausts made for this car. If I was you, and had concerns, I would choose either JoeZ, Tanabe or F Sport and then add a midpipe if you need to. I promise you that Ark, Agency Power and Full Joe Z will have some drone at low RPM (which is highway cruising). I had a 370z which is also a Japanese V6 with similar displacement and it had a light drone at certain RPMs as well.
So to answer your question, I believe that drone is an element to some degree of all exhaust options out there. Again, my Tanabe axle back is pretty quiet but still has a deep hum at low RPMs. Just kind of the way the engine is designed.
So to answer your question, I believe that drone is an element to some degree of all exhaust options out there. Again, my Tanabe axle back is pretty quiet but still has a deep hum at low RPMs. Just kind of the way the engine is designed.
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These Japanese V6s have some degree of drone no matter if you go axle back or cat back. My Tanabe lightly drones (more like a deep hum) up until 3,500 RPM as does the F Sport Axle back, and those are the two quietest exhausts made for this car. If I was you, and had concerns, I would choose either JoeZ, Tanabe or F Sport and then add a midpipe if you need to. I promise you that Ark, Agency Power and Full Joe Z will have some drone at low RPM (which is highway cruising). I had a 370z which is also a Japanese V6 with similar displacement and it had a light drone at certain RPMs as well.
So to answer your question, I believe that drone is an element to some degree of all exhaust options out there. Again, my Tanabe axle back is pretty quiet but still has a deep hum at low RPMs. Just kind of the way the engine is designed.
So to answer your question, I believe that drone is an element to some degree of all exhaust options out there. Again, my Tanabe axle back is pretty quiet but still has a deep hum at low RPMs. Just kind of the way the engine is designed.
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Was that sarcasm or were you being serious? Hopefully no one was offended by my comment, was just clarifying the country of origin. As everyone knows, different countries have different design strategies.....
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These Japanese V6s have some degree of drone no matter if you go axle back or cat back. My Tanabe lightly drones (more like a deep hum) up until 3,500 RPM as does the F Sport Axle back, and those are the two quietest exhausts made for this car. If I was you, and had concerns, I would choose either JoeZ, Tanabe or F Sport and then add a midpipe if you need to. I promise you that Ark, Agency Power and Full Joe Z will have some drone at low RPM (which is highway cruising). I had a 370z which is also a Japanese V6 with similar displacement and it had a light drone at certain RPMs as well.
So to answer your question, I believe that drone is an element to some degree of all exhaust options out there. Again, my Tanabe axle back is pretty quiet but still has a deep hum at low RPMs. Just kind of the way the engine is designed.
So to answer your question, I believe that drone is an element to some degree of all exhaust options out there. Again, my Tanabe axle back is pretty quiet but still has a deep hum at low RPMs. Just kind of the way the engine is designed.
For price, alone, I think I'm leaning towards the Magnaflow again. But I would strongly consider the Tanabe Medalion or Joe Z axle backs.
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I run Medallion Touring and it's pretty quiet, makes a V8-style BOOOOOOOO from 2000 till 3500 RPM when factory sound generator comes into play. The sound is far from I expected, but comfortable enough for daily driving without any inconvenience. No drone actually, just a specific sound scene inside cabin described by ddvette9.
Recently met a buddy who runs Magnaflow axle back and K&N intake - MUCH MORE growl, especially after 3000 RPM! But still comfy, with a slightly more noise than Tanabe makes.
Recently met a buddy who runs Magnaflow axle back and K&N intake - MUCH MORE growl, especially after 3000 RPM! But still comfy, with a slightly more noise than Tanabe makes.
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Many of our exhausts systems available (even the OEM exhaust system) don't feature a Helmholtz chambers, which will resolve many drone issues if tuned to the correct frequency while allowing louder exhaust notes. This is not similar to a traditional resonator which dampens noise, it simply works 180 degrees out of phase with pressure waves in your exhaust to cancel out drone at a specific Hz without any affect on the exhaust note: http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=449416
My M3's factory muffler had this and you could modify any portion of the exhaust directly in front of the muffler to increase volume and it would never drone. However once you replaced it with a catback system w/o a Helmholtz chamber, it would drone or you could spend extra and buy a system with one. Here is a sample of how loud my M3 was and it never droned:
My M3's factory muffler had this and you could modify any portion of the exhaust directly in front of the muffler to increase volume and it would never drone. However once you replaced it with a catback system w/o a Helmholtz chamber, it would drone or you could spend extra and buy a system with one. Here is a sample of how loud my M3 was and it never droned:
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So looking at exhausts. In the past I've had Magnaflows on my Accord v6, and even Tanabe Medallion on my S2000... both chosen specifically because they were known to have good sound (not too loud) but more importantly for me, no drone. I do a lot of highway driving and to hear that buzzing in your ear after hours 2 or 3 gets old real quick.
That said, I'm looking at both options here on clublexus for the IS350, but consensus seems to be that they're TOO quiet.
I really like the sound of the Joe-Z axle backs, but can't get a clear answer on how bad the interior drone is.
So my question out there is, if any of you have heard multiple exhausts in person before... whats got the best sound on the outside but cuts down the drone on the inside?
That said, I'm looking at both options here on clublexus for the IS350, but consensus seems to be that they're TOO quiet.
I really like the sound of the Joe-Z axle backs, but can't get a clear answer on how bad the interior drone is.
So my question out there is, if any of you have heard multiple exhausts in person before... whats got the best sound on the outside but cuts down the drone on the inside?
Is the drone worth living with? IMO, no not really. This car was extremely quiet without the exhaust and sometimes I miss that now. Each their own, this is just my opinion today.
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I have the Joe-Z axle-back on my IS350 and it does indeed drone. However, IF you keep the revs above 2-3k the drone disappears completely. I have the 8spd automatic which likes to shift very early, so I get drone quite often around town (going from stop up to speed, casual driving, very light throttle input).
Is the drone worth living with? IMO, no not really. This car was extremely quiet without the exhaust and sometimes I miss that now. Each their own, this is just my opinion today.
Is the drone worth living with? IMO, no not really. This car was extremely quiet without the exhaust and sometimes I miss that now. Each their own, this is just my opinion today.
I'll try to update the thread with some vids once I have the car, and exhaust. (taking delivery by the end of August).
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Did a muffler delete and had 2.5in straight pipes installed. That sucker droned like crazy on highway speeds, especially uphill, those were the worst. After about 3k RPM, the drone goes away and it sounds super nice. Outside, the sound was phenomenal, however I had to pay the price inside. I just put the stock exhaust back on today and that low hum noise is finally gone
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Did a muffler delete and had 2.5in straight pipes installed. That sucker droned like crazy on highway speeds, especially uphill, those were the worst. After about 3k RPM, the drone goes away and it sounds super nice. Outside, the sound was phenomenal, however I had to pay the price inside. I just put the stock exhaust back on today and that low hum noise is finally gone
Thoughts or comments ?
Thanks,
Mike
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When you say "put stock exhaust back on", did you just mean the resonator, midpipe or just the muffler? I have an Invidia midpipe with Magnaflow axle back and it drones way too much. I am getting the OEM midpipe reinstalled this week which will add the resonator and two cats back in line, so HOPEFULLY this will fix most of the drone noise.
Thoughts or comments ?
Thanks,
Mike
Thoughts or comments ?
Thanks,
Mike