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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 08:23 AM
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Went to the Dyno today Ill post the pictures on post one when I have the chance
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 09:55 AM
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Just post the # for the time being..
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 02:40 PM
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Just posted the gains on post #1. What do you guys think?

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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 04:43 PM
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10 whp, is that with or without cats?

I was expecting a little more to be honest. Closer to 16whp and I would buy these in a heart beat.
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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The end result seems odd in light of the numbers below. Maybe its the dyno? It would have been interesting to see the numbers on the same dyno with your car completely stock for a baseline.


Originally Posted by Kurtz
265 is pretty standard for a stock 350... it's tough to know how good the runs are without seeing the full plots though... the dyno should be applying some sort of correction factor (SAE usually) to adjust for temp, humidity, etc.

don't see mods in your sig, but if you had intake and an axleback I'd expect 275-278...maybe 280ish with a midpipe too or a full exhaust.

4th is the correct gear to dyno in because it's 1:1 for the transmission... snow mode is so it's less likely to downshift when you floor it.
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 06:13 PM
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I just look at the percentage increase. Maybe on another dyno it would have been 15whp but yet the same percentage increase. Ill be going to the 1/4 mile track and ill see the difference in trap speed compared to before the headers..

Important Note: He said the mixture was around 12.7 up high. And if I can make it run a little leaner I could get more HP. So maybe higher octane gas would do the trick.

He said some "LUCAS OCTANE BOOSTER" would work.... So I told him, lets put it on my car, test the car on the dyno, and if it doesnt add at least 5whp, The dyno session will be FREE along with te Lucas Octane Booster.

So Ill be going to the dyno again next week.

BTW anyone heard of this "Lucas Octane Booster"?

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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by juice14
I just look at the percentage increase. Maybe on another dyno it would have been 15whp but yet the same percentage increase. Ill be going to the 1/4 mile track and ill see the difference in trap speed compared to before the headers..
Yeah, good idea... trap speed (all else being equal) is a good indication of rwhp.

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Important Note: He said the mixture was around 12.7 up high. And if I can make it run a little leaner I could get more HP. So maybe higher octane gas would do the trick.
Yeah, so... wait... what?

WTF does octane have to do with AF ratio?

Octane is a measure of a fuels resistance to detonation. It has nothing to do with how much fuel the engine is mixing with the air it's ingesting.

Your car is programmed for 91, without pinging higher octane will improve nothing.

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He said some "LUCAS OCTANE BOOSTER" would work.... So I told him, lets put it on my car, test the car on the dyno, and if it doesnt add any HP. The dyno session is free along with te Lucas Octane Booster.

So Ill be going to the dyno again next week.

BTW anyone heard of this "Octane Booster"
He can pretty easily rig the dyno runs to avoid giving you a freebee, but I can assure you "octane booster" isn't worth the plastic bottle it comes in.

Most of it, when it says "raises octane 8 points!" on the bottle means 0.8.

So you'd be running 91.8 instead of 91. Which did I mention is useless?
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurtz
Your car is programmed for 91, without pinging higher octane will improve nothing.
Gas down here sucks, I didnt notice a huge loss in power when moving down here, but the car vibrates more on redlights and doest feel as smooth as in the States. Every once in a while I put racing fuel and the vibrations completly go away, also the car feels more smooth on every aspect. I dont really feel a gain in power but the car feels a little more alive.

Anyways maybe hes saying the car could run a little leaner with better (higher octane) gas. I dont know why, since on the "Before session, the mixture was 13.4 with the same exact gas.

so what would be the reason the car is running richer now?

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He can pretty easily rig the dyno runs to avoid giving you a freebee...
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Nice cant wait to get my install next month when this weather get's warmer here. Im gonna run all stock no mid or after marker exhaust.
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by laobo979
Nice cant wait to get my install next month when this weather get's warmer here. Im gonna run all stock no mid or after marker exhaust.
you should do a before and after DYNO
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 08:05 AM
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hey Juice, Lucas Octane Booster works like a champ. i tried it on the GTE and the know went down... at WOT i was knocking 25-28 and with Lucas it went to 10-13...

so ill say, try it out...

remember to use Sunix Fuel, here is the best and have you ever cleaned your injectors?
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 11:44 AM
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Went to the shop to get my sheets printed, here they are on post 1. Originally it was 10Hp but he said there was some kind of mistake on the before runs terefore it is 12hp (basically the same thing)
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 10:14 PM
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Any torque gains?
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 10:23 PM
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Guess I'm holding off even though the PPE headers will get me in the 12s consistently.
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