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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 04:15 PM
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Unhappy VVT-I Problem's with a Turbo

Does anyone have a solution for the VVT-i issue when running a Turbo? How can I fix the problem? I detonated and blew my motor. NEED HELP!

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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 05:21 PM
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Hmm this might sound like a brain fart... but isn't there a VVT-i controller being developed or is available in Japan? Could that help and prevent a blown motor?
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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 05:23 PM
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well so far no one I have heard of with an IS has had VVTI problems with boost... are you sure that the detonation issue was caused by the VVTI?
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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 07:59 PM
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A friend at Toyota/Lexus corporate told me that the only way to get rid of the problem of detonation was to bypass the VVT-i. He said there was a way, but my check engine light would be on all the time. I was just wondering what you all were doing to solve this problem?

Jeff, with the SC300 informend me that the VVT-i was the cause of my motor blowing. Toyomoto & Toyota Corporate backed it up.

This should be something that everbody is made aware of. I only had a turbo on for 5 months and my car was a 98! I never boosted over 1 bar. I am very interested in any info you may have.

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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 04:22 AM
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the OBDII and boost are a bad combination with the factory ECU controlling everything......i cant say for sure thats what blew his motor but i have a feeling it had something to do with it......this is the reason toyomoto uses a haltech ECU to control everything...the VVti remains in place but it controlled by the haltech to prevent detonation......from the info i got .....if you remain with a factory ECU on the VVti with turbo your gonna have issues......so haltech is your best alternitive Jeff

p.s.-none of toyomoto's is300turbos have any issues with timing or blowing motors even with the vvti
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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 07:40 AM
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hmmm but james who has his kit from XS has been running it with stock ECU and granted he has the shifting issue but no VVTI issues...
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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 09:58 AM
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he isnt running alot of boost and runs race fuel on higher boost from what i know and thatresists detonation....dont know....like i said...im trowing rocks from the outfield..but i dont see what else would do that to the motor....Jeff
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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 11:05 AM
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well I talked to Cort the person who made this post and he mentioned the he did the turbo kit himself and it ws never tuned nor does he have a AFC of any kind.. hence I think it might be a A/F issue...??
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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by fairuza11
well I talked to Cort the person who made this post and he mentioned the he did the turbo kit himself and it ws never tuned nor does he have a AFC of any kind.. hence I think it might be a A/F issue...??
So, is there a way that the computer can be tricked in NOT using VVT-i? Or is that just near-impossible? Cuz if that happened, wouldn't there be major problems in the valve timing?

Also, i agree too, a huge part in forced induction is A/F.

Has anyone opened up the motor to see if it was detonation? It might have gone lean and then blown up the motor.
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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 02:04 PM
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Oh and Cort, I think I met you at the A'pexi sale. I was the guy that is turboing the camry .

Anyways, I just got someone that might be able and willing to help you. Talk to Eric over at EL Prototypes in Azusa. He might be able to help you out.

http://www.elprototypes.com

Call them up (but sometimes, they don't pick up their phone) or go there. Eric knows A LOT about the vvt-i system and forced induction.
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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 08:31 PM
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Hey guys!

Thanks for all the feedback! How would I be able to tell if detonation caused the number #6 piston rod to break?? I pulled the head and the pistons and the chambers look all the same. I rotated the crankshaft and #6 didn't move, that's how I came to the conclusion that I broke a rod.

I want to figure out what went wrong, becuase my new TT blcok comes in tomorrow. I don't want to make the same mistake. I'm going to have the car tuned right away this time :-) I'm also thinking about disabling my VVT-i. I have a friend that can do it, but I will have to get use to seeing the check engine light.

For your info my Supra has the exact same VVT-i VR2 Motor as the IS300.
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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 10:21 PM
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did you try calling any of the tuners I told you about.?
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