JDM Supra VVTi Engine / v161 / Differential Dropout Complete
peace.
02-09-11, 09:05 AM
#17
I disgaree.
v161 goes for the exact same price as a v160, same strength, different gearing. 3-3.5k
That's the weaker late model jdm 6spd differential equivalent to usdm auto differential. It's no better than a GS400 differential + torsen lsd and torsen lsds suck.
The subframes are worthless because you don't need them.
USED control arms are not worth it IMO.
Rack and pinion is useless because it's RHD.
Driveshaft won't bolt up, needs to be extended.
The engine is missing the MAF so add an extra 330 + overnight shipping from japan.
Icing on the cake, look at the ECU harness, someone was running a boost controller.
Still need the radiator, shroud, water pump, timing belt, fuel pump, spark plugs, shift ****, intercooler list goes on ... to do the swap right. Total if you pay dr. tweek to do the harness is probably going to be close to 10k.
FYI it's only the early model TTs that didn't come with the 4/2 brakes, most of the late models did.
v161 goes for the exact same price as a v160, same strength, different gearing. 3-3.5k
That's the weaker late model jdm 6spd differential equivalent to usdm auto differential. It's no better than a GS400 differential + torsen lsd and torsen lsds suck.
The subframes are worthless because you don't need them.
USED control arms are not worth it IMO.
Rack and pinion is useless because it's RHD.
Driveshaft won't bolt up, needs to be extended.
The engine is missing the MAF so add an extra 330 + overnight shipping from japan.
Icing on the cake, look at the ECU harness, someone was running a boost controller.
Still need the radiator, shroud, water pump, timing belt, fuel pump, spark plugs, shift ****, intercooler list goes on ... to do the swap right. Total if you pay dr. tweek to do the harness is probably going to be close to 10k.
FYI it's only the early model TTs that didn't come with the 4/2 brakes, most of the late models did.
I know the v161 goes for more in the is300 world due to the gearing being more friendly for their stock rears.
You will need a driveshaft custum, seriously it all depend on what you want at the end of the day it's your car you will be driving it you must be happy with it.
I did a exact swap for one of the fellow members and seriously he regretted after spending about $9-10k and still not making 400Rwhp stock twins were blown maybe 2 weeks later.
Again do what you think will make you happy.
The only thing i would get is the diff and trans the rest of the parts you already have on your car lol.
You wanna spend $9K and make 600hp or $12k and make same 600hp, $7000.00 is alot of money spend it wisely
I did a exact swap for one of the fellow members and seriously he regretted after spending about $9-10k and still not making 400Rwhp stock twins were blown maybe 2 weeks later.
Again do what you think will make you happy.
The only thing i would get is the diff and trans the rest of the parts you already have on your car lol.
You wanna spend $9K and make 600hp or $12k and make same 600hp, $7000.00 is alot of money spend it wisely
I was die hard set on going NA-T but then realized how weak my drivetrain is, I'd need the v160 / 6spd rear to hold any power. I've researched the r154 and everyone seems to say just go v160 from the get go.
I guess I could pick up the v160 / rear, boost the hell out of the ge and then consider a built block or swap later (but then I couldn't get as much back on my stock stuff), decisions decisions......
02-09-11, 09:27 AM
#19
Edit: they have a 30 day warranty :rolleyes
This is what I got back from them.
"Hi there
Yes it is, this motor and transmission all accessories are out from the same car year 1999/09 VVTI evrything is matching.
The rear diff. is the same with the transmission, since they are out from the same car.
shipping for complete package everything shown in the pictures to zip code XXXXX is 410.00$ shipping transit time is 2 days.
thank you dear."
Last edited by HiPSI; 02-09-11 at 09:31 AM.
02-09-11, 09:31 AM
#20
30 day warrenty, that's all you get.
i'm helping my friend do a swap right now and it gets really expensive really fast for all the miscellaneous parts.
thorttlebody cable, radiator, radiator shroud, radiator hoses, intercooler, all the nuts and bolts, shift ****, boots, of course all the fluids and the maintenance items like the water pump, timing belt, pulley, tensioner, spark plugs, o2 and of course the super hard to find vvt-i maf sensor.
All in all even if you got that engine for 7k shipped, you still need another 1k worth of parts. The wiring taken care off too.
i'm helping my friend do a swap right now and it gets really expensive really fast for all the miscellaneous parts.
thorttlebody cable, radiator, radiator shroud, radiator hoses, intercooler, all the nuts and bolts, shift ****, boots, of course all the fluids and the maintenance items like the water pump, timing belt, pulley, tensioner, spark plugs, o2 and of course the super hard to find vvt-i maf sensor.
All in all even if you got that engine for 7k shipped, you still need another 1k worth of parts. The wiring taken care off too.
02-09-11, 10:00 AM
#21
30 day warrenty, that's all you get.
i'm helping my friend do a swap right now and it gets really expensive really fast for all the miscellaneous parts.
thorttlebody cable, radiator, radiator shroud, radiator hoses, intercooler, all the nuts and bolts, shift ****, boots, of course all the fluids and the maintenance items like the water pump, timing belt, pulley, tensioner, spark plugs, o2 and of course the super hard to find vvt-i maf sensor.
All in all even if you got that engine for 7k shipped, you still need another 1k worth of parts. The wiring taken care off too.
i'm helping my friend do a swap right now and it gets really expensive really fast for all the miscellaneous parts.
thorttlebody cable, radiator, radiator shroud, radiator hoses, intercooler, all the nuts and bolts, shift ****, boots, of course all the fluids and the maintenance items like the water pump, timing belt, pulley, tensioner, spark plugs, o2 and of course the super hard to find vvt-i maf sensor.
All in all even if you got that engine for 7k shipped, you still need another 1k worth of parts. The wiring taken care off too.
, and that's assuming I could actually have it running in 30 days to even see if the warranty is valid. After 30 day's I'm sure they'd tell me to get lost. Anyways I'm ranting, maybe I should look into a local importer for the simple fact I can go look at it in person.
Thanks alot guys for the feedback!
02-09-11, 10:08 AM
#22
From the threads I have seen with issues people almost always just get a partial refund and fix whatever is wrong themselves. A full out return never happens.
take a look at this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=230582692846
take a look at this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=230582692846
02-09-11, 10:15 AM
#23
From the threads I have seen with issues people almost always just get a partial refund and fix whatever is wrong themselves. A full out return never happens.
take a look at this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=230582692846
take a look at this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=230582692846
I saw that and isn't jdmenginedepot fairly commonly used? they have 1900 feedback and perfect 100% which is awesome.
So basically this setup would save me 1800 over the full JDM vvti supra dropout. I'd have to source my own differential later.
Considering most used v160's go for 4k, I'd get a full vvti longblock for $1k
--- haha I'm struggling hard to justify this! I just need warm weather so I can get on my R1 and forget everything car related again.
02-09-11, 10:32 AM
#25
just a thought, things to budget for: fmic, piping, exh, any fab work you can't do your self, walbro minimum for fuel, random couplers, replacement turbos, replacement clutch, maintenance items, the list goes on. Not that I'm trying to talk you out of it because I REALLY want your motorset for my pizza mobile! But, excitement over this kind of stuff can lead to long periods of financial drought and vehicular downtime. My suggestion would be to buy all of the small stuff like the stuff listed above before you pull the trigger on the actual swap itself. Then if you find a deal you can't pass up or decide that na-t would be the best route for you, you'd be ready to make it happen with a lot less snags.
02-09-11, 10:42 AM
#26
just a thought, things to budget for: fmic, piping, exh, any fab work you can't do your self, walbro minimum for fuel, random couplers, replacement turbos, replacement clutch, maintenance items, the list goes on. Not that I'm trying to talk you out of it because I REALLY want your motorset for my pizza mobile! But, excitement over this kind of stuff can lead to long periods of financial drought and vehicular downtime. My suggestion would be to buy all of the small stuff like the stuff listed above before you pull the trigger on the actual swap itself. Then if you find a deal you can't pass up or decide that na-t would be the best route for you, you'd be ready to make it happen with a lot less snags.
It was 2am and I was dreaming of ridiculous parts for my sc but I'm glad I asked because this might get the ball rolling for me to actually do it!
For inspiration I just watch vids like this
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ITko...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmNy-ajRV0U
02-09-11, 05:40 PM
#28
I just wonder if there are any major underlying issues with the motor set that can't be seen or internally in the tranny. I know he has a warranty and this and that but that would be a huge pain in the *** and I may not even find the problem till months from now when the swap is finished.
Edit: they have a 30 day warranty :rolleyes
This is what I got back from them.
"Hi there
Yes it is, this motor and transmission all accessories are out from the same car year 1999/09 VVTI evrything is matching.
The rear diff. is the same with the transmission, since they are out from the same car.
shipping for complete package everything shown in the pictures to zip code XXXXX is 410.00$ shipping transit time is 2 days.
thank you dear."
Edit: they have a 30 day warranty :rolleyes
This is what I got back from them.
"Hi there
Yes it is, this motor and transmission all accessories are out from the same car year 1999/09 VVTI evrything is matching.
The rear diff. is the same with the transmission, since they are out from the same car.
shipping for complete package everything shown in the pictures to zip code XXXXX is 410.00$ shipping transit time is 2 days.
thank you dear."
But the point I need to get across is that you always have to assume that there is going to be issues with a total engine and drive train swap like this.
I can guarantee that there will be some sort of unforseen issue and lets just hope it is nothing major or too serious.
These engine swaps as far as I can see are a roll of the dice everytime
Good luck either way u go i hope it works out for you.
