Yeah, I know. The horsepower on the hybrid is significantly less. There’s no easy answer here but I am interested in learning more about controlling the 30 miles of EV on the PHEV so that you get better gas mileage than the hybrid.

 

My mistake earlier. When I went to the Toyota website, what I originally saw was the gross vehicle rating, which is 5530. The curb weight is actually 4300 pounds. Sorry about posting a piece of inaccurate information. But that is still 600 pounds more than the regular RAV4 Hybrid.

 

Even though the hybrid may nominally have lower horsepower, what I've found from 10 months of driving my first hybrid vehicle is that the amount of horsepower feels like it is larger than it is because, when the electric motor kicks in, not only is it adding horsepower to that produced by the ICE, but the torque added is instantaneous as there is no delay like there is when the ICE has to spin up to provide increased power.

Remember that, if you are getting 70 mpg (or some other very impressive number), your cost to drive the the vehicle includes, not only what you paid for gas, but what you paid to charge the vehicle so that it could run for 40 miles or so solely on electric power. Depending on what you are paying per kwh for electricity, that charging cost might or might not be reasonable.

 

I have solar in my home so I am in a good position. Only bad position is the 120v standard plug. However, I don’t mind charging overnight.

 

I’m also coming from a German vehicle and I’m so use to lots of power in the low rpm’s.

I know the NX will not handle like a German vehicle but which model will be the most fun to drive from a power standpoint? The NX 350 (gas) or the NX 450h+

 

I'm jealous. I'd love to have solar, but my home is tucked into dense timber. I'd have to clear many dozens of large oak and walnut trees to have sufficient line-of-sight to the sun for even a few hours of sun each day.

 

No one has driven the 450h+ yet, but my guess is that the PHEV+ will be most fun to drive when on electric power, and least fun on gas

 

Can anyone confirm which powertrain(s) will include a space saving spare? (A few reviews I've seen suggested this.)

 

@lesz I'm reading that used RAV4 hybrids are selling for more than the price of new in some places. Maybe your chance to into a new NX

@njronbo yes in the Ioniq I can force it in EV or HEV mode in addition to auto which is a combination of the two. I have complete control to how I want to use the battery. The RAV4 Prime actually has a mode to force the car to recharge the battery using the engine. I expect the NX PHEV will have all the same drive modes as the RAV4 Prime.

@ncatoffic1 in a straight line the PHEV will be the most fun just because it will be the fastest. However, like all Lexus hybrid vehicles, the rear axle is strictly powered by the relatively weak dedicated electric rear motor. If you like to take corners fast, the NX350 might have the edge there because of its more traditional drive train and gearbox.

I have a solar system as well. Early on in my ownership of the Ioniq PHEV, I calculated the per mile cost in both gas and electricity combined to be $0.04 per mile (based on $0.15 per kWh, if I had to pay for electricity), which was exactly the same as my then Tesla. Here was the last MPG log I captured from the Ioniq PHEV. I calculate each tank (trip A miles divided by number of gallons filled) and the car's MPG display is within 2-3% accurate.

Of note, the RAV4 Prime (and I'm sure the NX PHEV as well) has a heat pump. This means that in the winter, you can run it in pure EV mode and still have cabin heat. This is contrary to our Ioniq PHEV which does not have a heat pump or resistance heating, so in the winter it *has* to run the gas engine to have heat in the cabin. And I was still averaging over 70MPG in the winter in the Ioniq.

 

I bought my RAV4 just 3 days after the 2021s became available. I knew that buying 3 days after new models became available was not the best time to negotiate the best price, but, had I waited until the spring, I would have needed to put $2000-4000 into repairs on my 2005 Lexus GX to get me through the winter. So, I bought the car last fall even though I knew that it shouldn't have been the best time to buy. As it turned out, had I waited until the spring or this summer to buy the RAV4, I would have ended up paying $3000-4000 more than I paid at the beginning of last October. When I bought it, I got about a $3000 discount from MSRP, and there was a $500 rebate. Now, they are selling for over MSRP, and there is no rebate on the RAV4 hybrids. Plus, it is doubtful that, now, I could even find a fully loaded RAV4 Limited Hybrid. When I've checked dealer inventories within 150 miles of me, many don't have any even lower trimmed RAV4 hybrids in their inventories, and, if they do have 1 or 2 RAV4 hybrids, they are lower-trimmed vehicles.

And, yes, when I've checked on Carvana's site, they have some 2019 and 2020 RAV4 hybrids on their site with prices that are higher than what I paid for my brand new 2021 RAV4 Limited Hybrid last fall.

 

Wow, beautiful color Cloudburst Gray. This video appears to be from Germany. I'm really excited about this vehicle, looks really sharp. The fit and finish looks amazing and attention to details. Look at how small the body panel gaps are, just amazing on a new model. I hope Canadian produced NX's will retain the same fit and finish of Japan production plant.

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I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this but according to the Pre-Brochure Order Guide for the new NX they give a few specs.
I went to Lexus .com to find the specs for the current NX for comparison. Here the difference:

2022 NX DIMENSIONS
​​​​​OVERALL LENGTH 183.5 IN
WHEELBASE 105.9 IN
WIDTH 73.4 IN (MIRRORS FOLDED)
HEIGHT 64.6 IN

2021 NX DIMENSIONS
​​​​OVERALL LENGTH 182.7 IN
​​​​​​WHEELBASE 104.7 IN
​​​​​​WIDTH 73.6 IN (MIRRORS FOLDED)
HEIGHT 64.8 IN

 

So basically the same exterior size as the 1st gen. Will be interesting to see how much more room on the inside as Lexus has stated interior dimensions have been increased.I would like to see more room in the 'way back' than the current model along with a larger rear seat.

 

Never seen a center console / arm rest open from both the right and left side.

At the 50 second and 4 minute mark in the video.

 

Yes, saw that look so cool but felt like over engineering. open from the front is more convenience to me.