300h or 300 reliability/longevity
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300h or 300 reliability/longevity
We’ve only bought Toyotas, they last 10+ years with just oil change/brakes/occasional radiator flush or transmission fluid flush...put over 300k on them so far (Tundra, Sienna, Prius, Corolla, RAV4) after 25 years- we are ready for comfort but still want longevity.
my dad works for Lexus and advises against the 300 because the turbo-aspect may cause issues after the 10 year mark- he recommends the Hybrid over it. We are also looking at 2019 Acura RDX-but again- turbo. What say y’all?
He says I can get a better deal out of Dallas - (I live in Houston)...whatever we decide is 13-15% off MSRP the sweet spot? Thanks!!
my dad works for Lexus and advises against the 300 because the turbo-aspect may cause issues after the 10 year mark- he recommends the Hybrid over it. We are also looking at 2019 Acura RDX-but again- turbo. What say y’all?
He says I can get a better deal out of Dallas - (I live in Houston)...whatever we decide is 13-15% off MSRP the sweet spot? Thanks!!
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We’ve only bought Toyotas, they last 10+ years with just oil change/brakes/occasional radiator flush or transmission fluid flush...put over 300k on them so far (Tundra, Sienna, Prius, Corolla, RAV4) after 25 years- we are ready for comfort but still want longevity.
my dad works for Lexus and advises against the 300 because the turbo-aspect may cause issues after the 10 year mark- he recommends the Hybrid over it. We are also looking at 2019 Acura RDX-but again- turbo. What say y’all?
He says I can get a better deal out of Dallas - (I live in Houston)...whatever we decide is 13-15% off MSRP the sweet spot? Thanks!!
my dad works for Lexus and advises against the 300 because the turbo-aspect may cause issues after the 10 year mark- he recommends the Hybrid over it. We are also looking at 2019 Acura RDX-but again- turbo. What say y’all?
He says I can get a better deal out of Dallas - (I live in Houston)...whatever we decide is 13-15% off MSRP the sweet spot? Thanks!!
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I second about 2019 RDX. This is too new and not proven. Honda has issues with their 1.5L turbo engine in CRV. I do not want to imply that RDX engine and CRV engine are the same, their are obviously not, but suspect that engine design philosophy may be alike.
Also, as your family tend to keep your cars for very long time, your dad is OK to pay $$$ to replace hybrid battery but not OK to service turbo? Interesting.
Also, as your family tend to keep your cars for very long time, your dad is OK to pay $$$ to replace hybrid battery but not OK to service turbo? Interesting.
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You mean - 200? Not 300? NX200?
At 10 yrs of useful life, hybrid has as much chance of hybrid battery to go bad, as NX200 develop issues.
Issues you should be referring to with turboed engines is that they develop carbon deposit build up on intake valves. Toyota took precaution on that, by adding auxiliary fuel injectors in air intake. They flush deposits off valves ever so often. Honda, aue contraire, chose to do nothing about this. Yet, Honda has GDI engines in Rdgeline for years now, without any known build up issues, I asked. Personally, I'd still go with Toyota solution. Problem is, you can't really buy a non turboed engine anymore, naturally aspirated non GDI engines became dinosaurs.
At 10 yrs of useful life, hybrid has as much chance of hybrid battery to go bad, as NX200 develop issues.
Issues you should be referring to with turboed engines is that they develop carbon deposit build up on intake valves. Toyota took precaution on that, by adding auxiliary fuel injectors in air intake. They flush deposits off valves ever so often. Honda, aue contraire, chose to do nothing about this. Yet, Honda has GDI engines in Rdgeline for years now, without any known build up issues, I asked. Personally, I'd still go with Toyota solution. Problem is, you can't really buy a non turboed engine anymore, naturally aspirated non GDI engines became dinosaurs.
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I second about 2019 RDX. This is too new and not proven. Honda has issues with their 1.5L turbo engine in CRV. I do not want to imply that RDX engine and CRV engine are the same, their are obviously not, but suspect that engine design philosophy may be alike.
Also, as your family tend to keep your cars for very long time, your dad is OK to pay $$$ to replace hybrid battery but not OK to service turbo? Interesting.
Also, as your family tend to keep your cars for very long time, your dad is OK to pay $$$ to replace hybrid battery but not OK to service turbo? Interesting.
We’ve had our Prius over 10 years, over 350k and no new battery- in his years selling Toyota/Lexus (35+ years) he has seen a battery replace on less than 5% of cars going back to the first Prius. It’s anecdotal-but he has seen 30-35% of cars with these turbo-charged engines start showing issues 5 years in- he just doesn’t like those odds. The manual states you need to have additional idle time- the rpms the turbos exhibit make it run so hot it must cool down, very few follow those guidelines and he’s seen the reality- long term is not very positive.
Ive been reading owner experience on the RDX and consistent brake and engine issues...ugh
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You mean - 200? Not 300? NX200?
At 10 yrs of useful life, hybrid has as much chance of hybrid battery to go bad, as NX200 develop issues.
Issues you should be referring to with turboed engines is that they develop carbon deposit build up on intake valves. Toyota took precaution on that, by adding auxiliary fuel injectors in air intake. They flush deposits off valves ever so often. Honda, aue contraire, chose to do nothing about this. Yet, Honda has GDI engines in Rdgeline for years now, without any known build up issues, I asked. Personally, I'd still go with Toyota solution. Problem is, you can't really buy a non turboed engine anymore, naturally aspirated non GDI engines became dinosaurs.
At 10 yrs of useful life, hybrid has as much chance of hybrid battery to go bad, as NX200 develop issues.
Issues you should be referring to with turboed engines is that they develop carbon deposit build up on intake valves. Toyota took precaution on that, by adding auxiliary fuel injectors in air intake. They flush deposits off valves ever so often. Honda, aue contraire, chose to do nothing about this. Yet, Honda has GDI engines in Rdgeline for years now, without any known build up issues, I asked. Personally, I'd still go with Toyota solution. Problem is, you can't really buy a non turboed engine anymore, naturally aspirated non GDI engines became dinosaurs.
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Reliability aside, the 2019 is a huge improvement over the prior gen. I drove both. It’s a night and day difference.
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Are you recommended to use premium gas in Lexus? I haven’t heard this. Driving the two cars- I much prefer the RDX, roomier and that panoramic sky roof is high on my preference list, but ultimately just want reassurances it will go the distance. I asked the sales rep to research how many owners have kept theirs running 9+ years. He’s found none yet, my Dad has several (not NX bc it’s not that old) off the top of his head whose Lexus IS over 300k and older than 10, again -anecdotal but reassuring.
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Are you recommended to use premium gas in Lexus? I haven’t heard this. Driving the two cars- I much prefer the RDX, roomier and that panoramic sky roof is high on my preference list, but ultimately just want reassurances it will go the distance. I asked the sales rep to research how many owners have kept theirs running 9+ years. He’s found none yet, my Dad has several (not NX bc it’s not that old) off the top of his head whose Lexus IS over 300k and older than 10, again -anecdotal but reassuring.
The NX requires premium fuel as does the RDX. The new RDX is an unknown due to the redesign. Comparing to the previous years won’t matter as it’s a different engine and transmission.
I also liked the pano roof in the RDX but there are no incentives on the RDX. You’re going to pay a premium for it. I got a loaded NX Fsport for less than the ASpec RDX.
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Does the new RDX with 2.0T tolerate mid-range fuel? Using lesser grade fuel with engines that recommend or require premium can lead to decreased power and/or gas mileage.
