Engine Sludge Issue...
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sure, if you use a cheaper group 1, 2 or 3 dino oil. Use a group 4/5 and get an all around better product. I group 3 oil can be called a synethic but it performs like a dino oil.
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Originally Posted by mburnickas
sure, if you use a cheaper group 1, 2 or 3 dino oil. Use a group 4/5 and get an all around better product. I group 3 oil can be called a synethic but it performs like a dino oil.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
This issue is very old and it was very small. Toyota being a great company, did this b/c they WANTED to. Not because they had too.
The issue was people not changing their oils and maintaining their cars, complaining about enging sludge. Sigh...
The issue was people not changing their oils and maintaining their cars, complaining about enging sludge. Sigh...
At any rate, we may think some of these owners are simply negligent. But a large chunk of the car-buying public considers taking their car to Jiffy Lube whenever they remember to as adequate service. And if the soccer mom in the article had issues with her Toyota minivan with such an oil change regimen, why wouldn't they? And how come they aren't reading the same articles about Honda engines? In the end, Toyota did what they had to do to keep sales from dropping. A specific issue blown up in the press involving specific engines could've ended up hurting sales across the board.
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Originally Posted by kreativ
I'd say the ability of some of these owners to get their stories into the press had a lot to do with T/L stepping up to the plate and offering the extended warranties. It's more of a move to maintain their public image than a gesture of goodwill to those with the problem. One of the published articles involved a mom with a Toyota minivan whose idea of an oil change was taking it to Jiffy Lube whenever she remembered. Not exactly a sign of good maintenance, but I'm not going to complain about the generous extended warranty.
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sure, if you use a cheaper group 1, 2 or 3 dino oil. Use a group 4/5 and get an all around better product. I group 3 oil can be called a synethic but it performs like a dino oil.
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Originally Posted by mburnickas
Depends on what groups you want.
Group 4/5
Redline
Amsoil 3000
Motul 300v poor shear though and low flash point
Fuchs Silkolene
Neo
Maxima
Kemopro
VP racing
Castrol SLX 0w-30
Group 4/5
Redline
Amsoil 3000
Motul 300v poor shear though and low flash point
Fuchs Silkolene
Neo
Maxima
Kemopro
VP racing
Castrol SLX 0w-30
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Mobil 1 is a group 4 but I dislike since there are better oils
Royal Purple is a group 3
Lubro Moly 5w-40 is group III and there 0-40 is a group 4. Nice "Euro" oil.
Also I would not but at least 2 out of 3 in with the list I have. No even close.
Royal Purple is a group 3
Lubro Moly 5w-40 is group III and there 0-40 is a group 4. Nice "Euro" oil.
Also I would not but at least 2 out of 3 in with the list I have. No even close.
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Originally Posted by mburnickas
Depends on what groups you want.
Group 4/5
Redline
Amsoil 3000
Motul 300v poor shear though and low flash point
Fuchs Silkolene
Neo
Maxima
Kemopro
VP racing
Castrol SLX 0w-30
Group 4/5
Redline
Amsoil 3000
Motul 300v poor shear though and low flash point
Fuchs Silkolene
Neo
Maxima
Kemopro
VP racing
Castrol SLX 0w-30
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I would add Lubro Moly 0w-40 to that list.
Longer intervlas is up to the oil choosen. These are group4/5 oils and are the best out there; however, I do not know there specific additive packages (zddp, etc).
I know Redline and Amsoil can go longer. The others I do not know 100% but they are very good oils.
Longer intervlas is up to the oil choosen. These are group4/5 oils and are the best out there; however, I do not know there specific additive packages (zddp, etc).
I know Redline and Amsoil can go longer. The others I do not know 100% but they are very good oils.
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Originally Posted by mburnickas
I would add Lubro Moly 0w-40 to that list.
Longer intervlas is up to the oil choose. These are group4/5 and are the best out there; however, I do not know there specific additive packages (zddp, etc)
Longer intervlas is up to the oil choose. These are group4/5 and are the best out there; however, I do not know there specific additive packages (zddp, etc)
With specifics (including what numbered 'groups' they are in), what is / are all the difference(s) between:
Amsoil (ASL) 5W 30 synthetic & Amsoil (XLF) XL-7500 5W 30 ?
I'm going by the product information on the Amsoil website. Which would you use & why?The Lubro Moly you mention (according to the website at least) is a Racing oil.
http://www.hopefungautoparts.com/LubroMoly.htm
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With specifics (including what numbered 'groups' they are in), what is / are all the difference(s) between:
Amsoil (ASL) 5W 30 synthetic & Amsoil (XLF) XL-7500 5W 30 ? I'm going by the product information on the Amsoil website. Which would you use & why?
Amsoil (ASL) 5W 30 synthetic & Amsoil (XLF) XL-7500 5W 30 ?
I'm going by the product information on the Amsoil website. Which would you use & why?
The Lubro Moly you mention (according to the website at least) is a Racing oil.
