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Old Jan 19, 2025 | 04:47 AM
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2022 LX600 39.679mi

While attempting to pass a truck on the highway, my LX600 experienced a critical engine failure. The error message displayed on the console was “Engine has Stopped,” without providing any details on temperature, pressure, or fluid levels. Consequently, the power steering and throttle became significantly compromised, making it dangerous and challenging to navigate the large SUV through traffic to the shoulder without power assistance.

Upon reaching the shoulder, the vehicle struggled to restart for several minutes. When the engine finally restarted, the car emitted a consistent ticking noise that worsened with acceleration. I had the LX600 towed to the Lexus dealership via flatbed. After a week, the dealership informed me that the vehicle would require a new engine under the published recall. Despite this major issue, the interior and the rest of the car remain in excellent condition. The dealership is currently "working with Lexus to find a solution," which is "not available at this time."

Anticipating a lengthy resolution, I'm preparing to use the loaner TX for several months. This is my third LX from this dealership, and I'm seeking advice on whether I should opt for a new engine or a rebuild. Additionally, I'm concerned about how this situation might affect my ability to resell the vehicle. Your thoughts and advice would be greatly appreciated.

(recall: https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-...-lx-vehicles/#)
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Old Jan 19, 2025 | 08:12 AM
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When the recall was announced last summer, I traded my 22 LX for a 2024. I didn't want to chance the experience you described and I did not want a new engine. FWIW, the 22 was running fine, no symptoms. 30K miles on it.

I was given a GX loaner while I waited 2 months for the 24 to arrive.
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Old Jan 19, 2025 | 09:30 AM
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First off, glad you’re ok and safe. Same thing happened to me and my wife last July with our ‘22.

Trade it in on a ‘24 or ‘25. New engines are nowhere to be found.

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Old Jan 19, 2025 | 10:28 AM
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I got the impression when my service adviser called that "trade in isn't an option" until Lexus has a solution. I didn't probe into his point, but he implied that the car won't have a meaningful trade-in value to the dealership while it's in its current no engine state.

I feel stuck and my only option right now is to wait for an engine.
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Old Jan 19, 2025 | 10:37 AM
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Dealers on a normal day, will claim something or the other to lower a trade in value, as they need profit; imagine having an huge red flag such as the engine recall. Their litmus stick are comps and how much lower then MMR can they get.

That being said, if you dont feel confident post repair you have options. The only value bundling both a trade in towards a new, state tax laws dependent, is tax credits. However I would keep both transactions, separate and run the vehicle vin through a couple of buyers like carmax carvana etc to gauge the market. From their start now with talking to dealers. The LX market has shifted bigtime, and dealers are willing to play ball with units, some close to 10% off. Of course its region specific and dealer specific.

700h is unobtanium though.
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Old Jan 19, 2025 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by KevlarBond
I got the impression when my service adviser called that "trade in isn't an option" until Lexus has a solution. I didn't probe into his point, but he implied that the car won't have a meaningful trade-in value to the dealership while it's in its current no engine state.

I feel stuck and my only option right now is to wait for an engine.
Go directly in person to the Sales Manager - not a salesman or the service manager - and tell them you want to trade your ‘22 in for a ‘24, with NO delete in pricing for the blown engine. That’s what I did and after some stern discussions with them, other dealers, and Lexus Brand Engagement, I came to an agreement on pricing on a ‘24 F Sport, and a ‘24 RX 500h loaner for 4 months (for free). My ‘22 sat in the dealer’s yard for 4 months and didn’t move while we waited for our new ‘24. I believe it’s still sitting there collecting dust (since July ‘24). Stand your ground.

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Old Jan 19, 2025 | 11:59 AM
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Not only that, but if the dealer won't accommodate you on a Lexus-admitted problem engine, then I would retain an attorney to help with the situation.

There are well documented lemon laws, and this would be a slam-dunk case because Lexus has already admitted the engines are faulty (hence, the recall) and have promised (but not delivered) to make good on the situation.

An attorney will very definitely get the dealer's attention, and I believe would make them very willing to work with you on achieving a proper solution to the problem here.
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Old Jan 19, 2025 | 01:51 PM
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Can someone explain how vehicles subject to the recall are allowed to be driving around?
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This is exactly why I traded my 2022 Lx600 Luxury for a GMC Yukon Denali Ultimate. My lexus dealer offered no relief when I met with the GM except to get a loaner from Enterprise which was a "compact" vehicle. I priced my 22 through CarMax and a couple of other sources and traded for the Yukon before the official recall notice came out. I had 3 GX and 2 LX and my wife has driven the LS since the second year Lexus started producing vehicles. We will continue with Lexus for the LS but we only put about 5000 miles a year on her car while my SUV is the primary vehicle and we use for traveling to a Lake house and pulling boats and PWC's in and out of the water.
I have been driving the Yukon 6 months and it has better electronics, more room and better comfort than the LX600.
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Originally Posted by Chc4au
This is exactly why I traded my 2022 Lx600 Luxury for a GMC Yukon Denali Ultimate. My lexus dealer offered no relief when I met with the GM except to get a loaner from Enterprise which was a "compact" vehicle. I priced my 22 through CarMax and a couple of other sources and traded for the Yukon before the official recall notice came out. I had 3 GX and 2 LX and my wife has driven the LS since the second year Lexus started producing vehicles. We will continue with Lexus for the LS but we only put about 5000 miles a year on her car while my SUV is the primary vehicle and we use for traveling to a Lake house and pulling boats and PWC's in and out of the water.
I have been driving the Yukon 6 months and it has better electronics, more room and better comfort than the LX600.
Your Yukon might need a new engine and transmission down the road. I opted out the LX 600 for reliability reasons as well and bought a CPO LX 570. I had a GX 460 before. I still believe Lexus is more reliable than GMC.
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Originally Posted by KevlarBond
2022 LX600 39.679mi

While attempting to pass a truck on the highway, my LX600 experienced a critical engine failure. The error message displayed on the console was “Engine has Stopped,” without providing any details on temperature, pressure, or fluid levels. Consequently, the power steering and throttle became significantly compromised, making it dangerous and challenging to navigate the large SUV through traffic to the shoulder without power assistance.

Upon reaching the shoulder, the vehicle struggled to restart for several minutes. When the engine finally restarted, the car emitted a consistent ticking noise that worsened with acceleration. I had the LX600 towed to the Lexus dealership via flatbed. After a week, the dealership informed me that the vehicle would require a new engine under the published recall. Despite this major issue, the interior and the rest of the car remain in excellent condition. The dealership is currently "working with Lexus to find a solution," which is "not available at this time."

Anticipating a lengthy resolution, I'm preparing to use the loaner TX for several months. This is my third LX from this dealership, and I'm seeking advice on whether I should opt for a new engine or a rebuild. Additionally, I'm concerned about how this situation might affect my ability to resell the vehicle. Your thoughts and advice would be greatly appreciated.

(recall: https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-...-lx-vehicles/#)
OP, any updates on this?
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Old Jan 30, 2025 | 01:53 PM
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I have had 3 GX and moved up to the LX570 in 2017. CPO LX 570 are scarce. The Yukon has more room than the LX which I need.The incidents with the GMC Yukons are statistically a much smaller % of vehicles than the LEXUS
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Originally Posted by Chc4au
I have had 3 GX and moved up to the LX570 in 2017. CPO LX 570 are scarce. The Yukon has more room than the LX which I need.The incidents with the GMC Yukons are statistically a much smaller % of vehicles than the LEXUS
oh yeah. if you need that much room you may need a Yukon or Tahoe or suburban. I like the audio system in the LX and the overall luxury of the vehicle. It's just so beautiful.
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Originally Posted by Chc4au
I have had 3 GX and moved up to the LX570 in 2017. CPO LX 570 are scarce. The Yukon has more room than the LX which I need.The incidents with the GMC Yukons are statistically a much smaller % of vehicles than the LEXUS
I am surprised you had 3GX before! I only had one. you must really love the car. there is a very rich community half a mile away from my neighborhood where houses are usually millions. One day I was walking with my friend in that community and we saw 3 GX 460 parked on the street in front of a house. We were joking the owner must really love the GX. and a block away there was 4 911s in front of another house. people like to collect those toys.
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I was putting a lot of miles on the cars and the 3rd Gx I only had a year when I moved up to the LX for comfort. I was routinely driving about 450 miles at a stretch visiting daughter and grand kids and the LX was more comfortable. The second LX I was just not happy with the motor issue and whether or not Lexus would do right by me so I left Lexus
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