Competitive Considerations
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Competitive Considerations
So the LX570 is coming (and I am considering) but when will the redesigned Range Rover be released? How will it compare?
Also, if you were to make a car decision would it be:
A: LX570
B: Range Rover (let's just assume it is todays body style)
C: Wait for the new 7
I have a boxster coming off lease in the not too distant future and need to decide...
Also, if you were to make a car decision would it be:
A: LX570
B: Range Rover (let's just assume it is todays body style)
C: Wait for the new 7
I have a boxster coming off lease in the not too distant future and need to decide...
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I saw a consumer report recently where they rated reliability of all new cars and Range Rover was dead last. Number 1 was a Porsche and Lexus was in 2nd spot. I don’t remember where BMW was. I wish I could find that list somewhere, but I can’t.
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I also read that on the LS forum. I really love the Range so I wish they could get their act together. One thing that I am going to do if I do decide that the Range is the right car is lease it so I am never out of warranty. That should help keep costs down...
The LX is really nice and would be the car I would go with if it wasn't for that strange taillight configuration. I looked very closely at the car (LX570) since my last post and that one thing may be the deal breaker for me which is such a shame because I really like the car aside from that (especially the interior).
The LX is really nice and would be the car I would go with if it wasn't for that strange taillight configuration. I looked very closely at the car (LX570) since my last post and that one thing may be the deal breaker for me which is such a shame because I really like the car aside from that (especially the interior).
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I've had a lot of Rovers and they are hit or miss. The newer ones are much better. If you are buying new and plan to own it less than 4/50K then what's the worry. If it breaks they will come pick it up and you'll get a decent Discovery whilst it is in the garage.
Buy what you like. If you get an LX and every time you pass a new RR you think "shoulda, coulda woulda" then you know what the answer was.
Without seeing the new LX in person yet I would hesitate to say...but a new RR is not going to be anytime in the near future. With the eminent sale of LR by Ford another motor change may be a possibility (unless LR and Jag go to the same buyer) but I doubt we'll see a completely new body style for many years. The first Range Rover ran for 30 years with few small cosmetic changes along the way. The second ran from '94 - '02 ('95 being the first year in NA). I think the current one will outlive the second generation.
Buy what you like. If you get an LX and every time you pass a new RR you think "shoulda, coulda woulda" then you know what the answer was.
Without seeing the new LX in person yet I would hesitate to say...but a new RR is not going to be anytime in the near future. With the eminent sale of LR by Ford another motor change may be a possibility (unless LR and Jag go to the same buyer) but I doubt we'll see a completely new body style for many years. The first Range Rover ran for 30 years with few small cosmetic changes along the way. The second ran from '94 - '02 ('95 being the first year in NA). I think the current one will outlive the second generation.
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Yes, the Range Rover line has its share of problems. At the bottom or near the bottom of every reliability survey out there.
Sucks, because the Range Rovers are such awesome looking and performing vehicles.
The next model is supposed to be released in another 2-3 years I believe (theres been a few spy pics of it). Its going to be the first SUV built on an all aluminum body. So the weight should drop by a few hundred pounds and be a lot stronger. Plus it should have more powerful engines with a class leading interior as always.
Theres been quite a few pictures in the Car Chat about the new 7-series. I just posted an interior picture of the model last week. Doesnt look that different from the current model on the inside. Exterior, dont know yet. To much camo.
I've seen the new LX in person and IMO, it really doesnt look any different than it does in pictures and that to me i truely upsetting. The new LX could have been so much better (though the interior is to die for!!)
Sucks, because the Range Rovers are such awesome looking and performing vehicles.
The next model is supposed to be released in another 2-3 years I believe (theres been a few spy pics of it). Its going to be the first SUV built on an all aluminum body. So the weight should drop by a few hundred pounds and be a lot stronger. Plus it should have more powerful engines with a class leading interior as always.
Theres been quite a few pictures in the Car Chat about the new 7-series. I just posted an interior picture of the model last week. Doesnt look that different from the current model on the inside. Exterior, dont know yet. To much camo.
I've seen the new LX in person and IMO, it really doesnt look any different than it does in pictures and that to me i truely upsetting. The new LX could have been so much better (though the interior is to die for!!)
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I've had a lot of Rovers and they are hit or miss. The newer ones are much better. If you are buying new and plan to own it less than 4/50K then what's the worry. If it breaks they will come pick it up and you'll get a decent Discovery whilst it is in the garage.
Buy what you like. If you get an LX and every time you pass a new RR you think "shoulda, coulda woulda" then you know what the answer was.
Without seeing the new LX in person yet I would hesitate to say...but a new RR is not going to be anytime in the near future. With the eminent sale of LR by Ford another motor change may be a possibility (unless LR and Jag go to the same buyer) but I doubt we'll see a completely new body style for many years. The first Range Rover ran for 30 years with few small cosmetic changes along the way. The second ran from '94 - '02 ('95 being the first year in NA). I think the current one will outlive the second generation.
Buy what you like. If you get an LX and every time you pass a new RR you think "shoulda, coulda woulda" then you know what the answer was.
Without seeing the new LX in person yet I would hesitate to say...but a new RR is not going to be anytime in the near future. With the eminent sale of LR by Ford another motor change may be a possibility (unless LR and Jag go to the same buyer) but I doubt we'll see a completely new body style for many years. The first Range Rover ran for 30 years with few small cosmetic changes along the way. The second ran from '94 - '02 ('95 being the first year in NA). I think the current one will outlive the second generation.
Theres been quite a few pictures in the Car Chat about the new 7-series. I just posted an interior picture of the model last week. Doesnt look that different from the current model on the inside. Exterior, dont know yet. To much camo.
I've seen the new LX in person and IMO, it really doesnt look any different than it does in pictures and that to me i truely upsetting. The new LX could have been so much better (though the interior is to die for!!)
I've seen the new LX in person and IMO, it really doesnt look any different than it does in pictures and that to me i truely upsetting. The new LX could have been so much better (though the interior is to die for!!)
You are right, the LX could have definitely been better. For one, Lexus needs to add decent rims. My wife has the RX330 and I think that the large 5 star rims make the car look great. In almost every other model the rims aren't that attractive. Believe it or not, on the LS460 it is almost impossible to switch rims (many discussions on this) so hopefully this won't be the case with the LX570.
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I think the GX compare more to the Range. If you arent in a hurry maybe you could wait and see if they put the 5.7 is the GX and what improvements they make.
IMO the GX is also a step ahead of the LX style wise, but not quite at the level of the RR.
IMO the GX is also a step ahead of the LX style wise, but not quite at the level of the RR.
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Apparently you haven't owned either one or the other.
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I would also consider Mercedes GL550 (gas) that is coming out in a few months or the GL420 (diesel). If you're into off-roading, then i would not get this Mercedes and stick to your options above. However, if you're looking for something nice to ride around in, then i would seriously consider the GL. Apparently, the recent MB designs have been rocksolid in both reliability and functionality.
I would not normally recommend this vehicle (or any MB car products for that matter; thus, i love it that my G500 is not built in Germany!) because of Mercedes history of reliability issues, but recent JD Powers survey has me re-evaluate Mercedes new designs.
I would not normally recommend this vehicle (or any MB car products for that matter; thus, i love it that my G500 is not built in Germany!) because of Mercedes history of reliability issues, but recent JD Powers survey has me re-evaluate Mercedes new designs.
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The GL is a nice car but it looks a little less aggressive than I want. Also, I am just coming off a Mercedes (sold it in November) and so I want something completely different.
I wonder if BMW will ever come out with an X7. It seems like they are really missing out on a market segment. The X3 and X5 sell so well that you would think the X7 would do the same. It would also give the people advancing through the product lines an option. I guess they sort of had this one time with Range Rover but since sold it.
I wonder if BMW will ever come out with an X7. It seems like they are really missing out on a market segment. The X3 and X5 sell so well that you would think the X7 would do the same. It would also give the people advancing through the product lines an option. I guess they sort of had this one time with Range Rover but since sold it.
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Wait for the new 7.
Considering everyone is just now catching up (new S class, new LS) to the 7 BMW put out FIVE YEARS ago, I think the 7 is the way to go.
Technophile's wet dream + ultimate driving machine = BMW 7
Considering everyone is just now catching up (new S class, new LS) to the 7 BMW put out FIVE YEARS ago, I think the 7 is the way to go.
Technophile's wet dream + ultimate driving machine = BMW 7
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