UCF20-Replacing Nakamichi HU with aftermarket deck (Sub working)
This is the wiring I did, I used a 6 pin harness for everything but the speakers wires for easy servicing, for the speakers I used an RCA cable that I've cut in half and soldered to the 8 wires (make sure you respect polarity) on the B plug
Battery 12v (B+ Cyan_Blue/Yellow on C1)
Accessory (ACC grey on C6)
Ground (GND2 brown on C14)
Power Antenna (ANT+ Black/Red on C12)
Amp remote (AMP+ Pink/Cyan on B11)
FL Speaker (+) BLACK (B2) to RCA
FL Speaker (-) WHITE (B7) to RCA
FR Speaker (+) WHITE (B1) to RCA
FR Speaker (-) RED (B6) to RCA
RL Speaker (+) RED (B5) to RCA
RL Speaker (-) GREEN (B14) to RCA
RR Speaker (+) YELLOW (B4) to RCA
RR Speaker (-) GREEN (B13) to RCA
Wait... where's the sub signal??? There's none, everything is happening at the amp.
The amp is using the signal from FL,FR,RL,RR and feed the sub with it, but the way it work is that it high pass the signal for the doors (~100Hz) and low pass the signal for the sub.
When I started the system after replacing the HU in mine, I didn't have any sub. Went into my deck settings and removed the HPF (High pass filter) that was set at 120Hz. Bam! I can hear the sub, go into my EQ and boost 60Hz and the car is shaking.
Basically all the bass **** on the deck was doing is to boost or lower the lower frequency and only the sub is affected because of the LPF and HPF that is set in the amp.
Now for those who want more punch out of their system, you need to bypass the the nak amp before replacing speakers in your doors. Since there's an HPF set in the Nak amp, even if you put 8" in your doors you wont get much more midbass out of them.
If you already did this and you can't hear your sub, here's some things to check. First make sure your RCA output are set to fullrange (no HPF) in your headunit. Some HU will automatically set an HPF if the sub is enable so check that too.
Next, check that you respected the polarity on all RCA, if you have one inverted it will cancel out (phase inverted) the sub since all channels go to one speaker. To see if that's your problem, simply set the balance to one side and do the same for the fader so that only one speaker play. Crank the lowest EQ settings you have (ideally 80Hz or less) and you should hear the sub.
HTH
Last edited by lexmoose; Nov 27, 2014 at 05:32 AM.
Swapped my Alpine IVA-w205 for a INA-w910 (extra tuning capabilities) and the factory system with the rear speaker off is not bad at all.
Stage height is at the dash, width is from left a-pillar to passenger side mirror and center focus is between 8 to 15inch depending on frequency.
Sub well it's a one note wonder lol, it have very narrow bandwidth (45-80Hz) but this is where most bass is in music so it's not so bad. The amp auto level the sub to prevent clipping at high level, this I hate since you need to crank the low EQ to get some decent output at high level, but when you lower the volume all you can hear is the sub... Full SQ install this spring will finally begin.
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Last edited by peace101; Jan 10, 2016 at 07:08 PM.
I disconnected the phone ECU and connected the two wires together. I can now see the black and yellow cables. They are thicker compare to other. Speaker still don't work. No corrosion on the connector. Will it be okay to cut the black and yellow wires and connect them together without using the white connector?
What are the rest of those cables do or go to?
I took out the phone cradle long time ago.
Lexmoose - the wires you circled got me confused because the pin numbers and colors from the schematics don't match the connect going to the speaker relay.
I disconnected the phone ECU and connected the two wires together. I can now see the black and yellow cables. They are thicker compare to other. Speaker still don't work. No corrosion on the connector. Will it be okay to cut the black and yellow wires and connect them together without using the white connector?
What are the rest of those cables do or go to?
I took out the phone cradle long time ago.
Lexmoose - the wires you circled got me confused because the pin numbers and colors from the schematics don't match the connect going to the speaker relay.
When there is a phone ECU problem in the trunk, all the speakers are muted - not just one door speaker.
After you have disconnected and removed the phone ECU in the trunk, you will be left with the connectors shown in the attached photos. The small white one will not plug into anything. The two mini UHF cables are for the phone antenna imprinted on the rear window. Ignore the black coax cable in the photo k- it's for an aftermarket phone system I installed.











. i am still determined to find a solution for non-Nak cars.
