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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 05:32 AM
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Has anyone used these tires on an AWD LS500?
I have trips to Colorado and Chicagoland planned this winter and will probably switch to conventional tires as my Runflats seem to be wearing down too fast.
I have read of balancing issues with the Crossclimates.
I have also had Yokohamas of similar tread design on a Miata. Noise was an issue.
I can get Michelin Primacy tires, but they probably won’t be as good in snow.

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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 10:20 AM
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I have had them on a minivan when they first came out.
Currently they are on wifes A4 allroad. very smooth and quiet, but they are about 5k miles on them.
They may look a bit out of place on the LS500 but should perform well.
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 10:42 AM
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I put these on my 4th Gen LS460L last year for the same reason - winter trips to northern Indiana around the holidays. Haven't had to use them in snow yet, but don't feel or hear much difference in the noise or ride quality from the Primacy's I had previously.
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 11:21 AM
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Are there any other brand of Runflats that work other than the Bridgestone's?
Has any company at least come close to cracking the code to improve the ride?
Mine are wearing good thus far but some bumps are a bit concerning! Not a quality ride on some road conditions!!
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Our 22 year-old LS430 with Bridgestone Turanza Serenity Plus rubber is quieter and smoother than my LS500 with Bridgestone Runflats, not to mention the mileage. We are on the LS430’s third set of Serenity Plus tires in 127,000 miles. Current set will most likely dry rot before they wear out. I forgot to mention they are 16s. Oh well, at least my 20s look cool.
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by sajack
Our 22 year-old LS430 with Bridgestone Turanza Serenity Plus rubber is quieter and smoother than my LS500 with Bridgestone Runflats, not to mention the mileage. We are on the LS430’s third set of Serenity Plus tires in 127,000 miles. Current set will most likely dry rot before they wear out. I forgot to mention they are 16s. Oh well, at least my 20s look cool.
Size does matter!
The 16’s are balloons in comparison.
New rubber is always a nice thing. Im sure you’ll be happy.
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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 02:30 AM
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Try kicking your runflats. They feel like they are solid rubber. It’s no wonder they are rougher riding.
32 pounds, 3 pounds more than Michelin Primacy’s, nothing like adding unsprung weight to your car. Like jogging with ankle weights.

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Old Nov 29, 2023 | 07:44 AM
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I've been running Crossclimates on an RX 450h for a couple of years or so. They seem fairly quiet and have performed well in summer, snow and rain. Only thing to be aware of is that they're directional, and so you can only rotate them back to fromt, and not diagonally.
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My sister has run these on her Highlander I think starting her 3rd winter.

They’ve been pretty solid for her. I’ve driven her car in the snow a few times and felt they did a very solid job. Maybe a little noisier than I expected.

Family member several years ago put Pirelli P7 All-Season Plus on their BMW and that is one of the more impressive tires I’ve experienced in a long time. Exceptionally quiet. Excellent for a luxury car. Please note they are not used in winter so I don’t know the snow traction. Run Blizzak in winter.
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Originally Posted by Jerome10
My sister has run these on her Highlander I think starting her 3rd winter.

They’ve been pretty solid for her. I’ve driven her car in the snow a few times and felt they did a very solid job. Maybe a little noisier than I expected.

Family member several years ago put Pirelli P7 All-Season Plus on their BMW and that is one of the more impressive tires I’ve experienced in a long time. Exceptionally quiet. Excellent for a luxury car. Please note they are not used in winter so I don’t know the snow traction. Run Blizzak in winter.
I’m running the newest P Zero AS Plus 3 all seasons on my LS500, replacing a set of Cinturato P7 All Seasons. If you thought the P7s were excellent, you’d be amazed with the p zero as plus 3. Better in both ride quality and noise.
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Originally Posted by sajack
Has anyone used these tires on an AWD LS500?
I have trips to Colorado and Chicagoland planned this winter and will probably switch to conventional tires as my Runflats seem to be wearing down too fast.
I have read of balancing issues with the Crossclimates.
I have also had Yokohamas of similar tread design on a Miata. Noise was an issue.
I can get Michelin Primacy tires, but they probably won’t be as good in snow.

I've had them on mine for about 2 and a half years and absolutely love them. They're far more comfortable that the OEM runflats, quieter, and great in snow and ice.
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Old Jan 10, 2024 | 11:40 AM
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sajack.....You enjoying post runflat life with and regret every second you spend with them?

Im at one year with the runflats. I can't vouch they were brand new when I got them as they were "New-ish" and think they should last until spring.
Im ok with AAA but might want to carry a spare as well. There are jack points on the car? One can get from modern spare an actual jack that fits under it? I know they sell them, i assume they work.
Most importantly can you quantify that its a new tire (which is always better than any old work out tire) or the switch from runflats. PGA71 I think had switched with fairly fresh runflats. Im don't recall if his bulging run flats vibrated or not.

and have you begun your northern journeys into the wicked weather yet?
My son told me he has plans to move to Michigan from Colorado and im thinking "13 hours in the LS500 might not be so bad". We fly out to visit with him now. There are some car museums in Detroit I always wanted to visit!
He can also drive here with is kids and dogs as well!
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Originally Posted by Nalod
PGA71 I think had switched with fairly fresh runflats. Im don't recall if his bulging run flats vibrated or not.
Correct, switched out the run flats with only about 6K miles on them. (A bit of a waste I know, but worth it to me)
Never had vibration, but the stiff sidewalls were definitely noticeable especially when I was so conscience of the effects and properties of run flats.
Have a portable air compressor, can of fix a flat and a plug/patch tire repair kit in my trunk as mitigation if I ever need it in case of a flat.
Have road side assistance if necessary as well.
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I use them on my 300h. In rain they are unbelievable, my car holds the road like a BMW M5 or similar, However, fuel consumption went down 2 mpg.
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Old Jan 10, 2024 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Aegean
I use them on my 300h. In rain they are unbelievable, my car holds the road like a BMW M5 or similar, However, fuel consumption went down 2 mpg.

Could it be your enjoying the ride more a bit faster?
Maybe? Just a little? Fess up!! LOL
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